A question that CANNOT be answered by fanboys

[soul_survivor]

And you can be a couch athlete and act like you know what great is.. You people are sad to think that it doesn't take greatness to get where he did .. Start boxing you should be top 5 in your division in no time .. It's that easy and you don't have to be great

I have an amateur background but I'm not a great boxer...what has that got to do with Judah? you think only great fighters can be champions? Judah was very good at one stage, did well to get to where he did at 147 but it was a weak division at the time with the 3 best fighters to fight at 147 since Leonard/Hearns/Duran being Oscar/Mosley/Tito moving fighting at other weights and the generation of Cotto/Marg yet to come.

None of that makes Judah great though. He did have exceptional natural gifts, speed, reflexes and some pop but he lacked steely grit, great mental strength and resolve to dig deep when **** got real at the highest level. So tell me, how was Judah great?

[Reloaded]

I love these pretend boxers ^^^^. This guy is like an angry, floydfanny version of Box up!

How are going with your tuk tuk repairs Gong , hope all is well and and youre back on the road soon its no good when your livelihood is cut off .

[#1Assassin]

It's actually a very simple question for the fanboys:

What is the name of the PRIME, ELITE welterweight fighter that floyd has defeated that makes him "TBE"?

with the exception of pac and cotto. which prime, elite WW has been around?

one fight that was postponed and one that is yet to be made. guys like cotto may not have been at their peak but they were still really tough challenges.

hagler wasnt in his prime when leonard beat him, more far gone than cotto actually. hearns neither, he was yet to reach his prime when they first fought and way past it in their rematch. durans prime was at 135.

see how easily you can nitpick? those were still all great wins, floyd doesnt have anything that impressive on his resume but he does have a very impressive resume regardless.

also lets keep in mind that floyd isnt exactly marvin hagler, dide has won titles in five weightclasses and beat elite fighters in their prime in several of them. guys like corrales, alvarez, hernandez etc. floyds best work hasnt been made at 147, this is common knowledge yet people still attack him based on what transpired at 147 alone.

im not saying im excusing not fighting pacquiao for instance, im certainly not saying he is TBE. im just saying you have to take everything into account when judging a fighters career. fans and haters alike always want to ignore anything that doesnt fit their agenda, you cant do that and expect to be taken seriously by real boxing heads.

[bigjavi973]

with the exception of pac and cotto. which prime, elite WW has been around?

one fight that was postponed and one that is yet to be made. guys like cotto may not have been at their peak but they were still really tough challenges.

hagler wasnt in his prime when leonard beat him, more far gone than cotto actually. hearns neither, he was yet to reach his prime when they first fought and way past it in their rematch. durans prime was at 135.

see how easily you can nitpick? those were still all great wins, floyd doesnt have anything that impressive on his resume but he does have a very impressive resume regardless.

also lets keep in mind that floyd isnt exactly marvin hagler, dide has won titles in five weightclasses and beat elite fighters in their prime in several of them. guys like corrales, alvarez, hernandez etc. floyds best work hasnt been made at 147, this is common knowledge yet people still attack him based on what transpired at 147 alone.

im not saying im excusing not fighting pacquiao for instance, im certainly not saying he is TBE. im just saying you have to take everything into account when judging a fighters career. fans and haters alike always want to ignore anything that doesnt fit their agenda, you cant do that and expect to be taken seriously by real boxing heads.

The most honest answer on boxing scene. Thank you sir!
This was my point for the question at hand. Thumbs up

[LouIE G]

Bradley is elite for getting a gift decision over pacman and going life and death with ruslan who got out boxed by algeri ? Oh god I'm done here .. This thread has lost all credibility

So being in a close fight means you are not elite now??? U say you box im sure you have had some tough fights and won some and loss sum,if you had a good record against world class fighters would it matter if you won or loss some close fights??

[bigjavi973]

So being in a close fight means you are not elite now??? U say you box im sure you have had some tough fights and won some and loss sum,if you had a good record would it matter if you won or loss some close fights??

imo it depends who the close fights was against, but the whole "styles makes fights" can tip it either way imo I do wanna see IBOX's response to that question. Its gonna be a good one lol

[LouIE G]

Brook , thurman (resume still green sadly but I love him) are mch better than Bradley .. It's a true shame everyone is hiding under a rock when one touch gets mentioned

Clinchell" brook, whos only signature win is shawn porter???? Lol you got to come better then that if your trying to make yourself out to be a expert analyst..

[SUBZER0ED]

Mayweather calling himself The Best Ever doesn't make it so. Analyzing his fights to support that claim is a waste of time, because it simply is not true. Now if he were to call himself TBE and it stood for The Biggest Egomaniac, I would agree.

[junior gong]

How are going with your tuk tuk repairs Gong , hope all is well and and youre back on the road soon its no good when your livelihood is cut off .

Ahhh yet again the racism comes from the vile little derplet. Why dont you give us the old mock asian accent routine, that always gets your sort moist!

[sicko]

He is not TBE...NOT EVEN CLOSE!

What Mayweather has done, is taken advantage of stepping in with guys who we all know are really NOT THAT GOOD but because of their few wins before stepping in with Mayweather, the dumb fans the boxing media hype these guys up going into the fight with Mayweather, then he knocks them down and expose them all for what they're really are, which is: AVERAGE FIGHTER WITH GOOD PROMOTION!

The major problem with Mayweather Resume is that once he is finish with the fighters most of them end up struggling, losing and/or just falling off the map. His Resume doesn't have any All Time Greats on it.

Fighting Khan or Alexander won't move him up on ATG list, they both have loses and to be 100% HONEST, NEITHER IS ALL THAT GOOD! In Fact I would argue that both Alexander and Khan have UNDERACHIEVED IN THEIR CAREERS, especially if you remember they hype these guys had while fighting at 140. Alexander at one point was compared to Floyd Mayweather and Oscar himself was hyping up Amir Khan!

So to answer the question, for Mayweather, that guy SHOULD BE PACQUIAO! And like I been posting on this forum for awhile now, I think all sides are full of **** when it comes to trying to make that fight happen. Arum don't care for the fight one way or the other because he would have to open his books with another Promotion for the BIGGEST FIGHT IN BOXING. Arum makes more off of Pacquiao fighting Algieri, regardless of the PPV Numbers, than he does working and sharing profit with another Promotion. Mayweather is GREEDY as well, with him knowing the fight would make a ton of money, he wants all of that back end money. So yeah that $40 Million Offer looks great to us common folks but that Back End Money could easily leave Mayweather with Well over $100-$200 Million if it does the Record Shattering PPV Numbers everybody knows it would do. So that $40 Million Offer is actually ***in INSULTING to be honest!

You don't PLAN Greatness...IT IS SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENS! It is funny seeing fans trying to PLAN GREATNESS for their favorite fighter like "WELL IF THEY DO THIS OR THIS THEY WILL GO DOWN AS A ATG..." that is not how it ***ing works.