Amir Khan Master Thread

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm not sure he would beat Rios.

But better at what? - I ask for the 5th time.

He is better at everything except getting hit in the face.

And Alexander has a pretty great chin at that

[LacedUp]

There is no evidence to suggest that Rios would win. Alexander shut out Maidana who is far better than Rios. He toughed it out against Matthysse - I thought he lost but he fought very hard in that fight. What the hell could Rios do with him?

Like I said, Rios lost pretty much every single round to Richar Abril. He got outboxed by Mike Alvarado.

Devon Alexander would toy with him.

He shot out Maidana 3 years ago. That was a fight where he should have been disqualified for holding 100+ times. Maidana was coming up in weight without having adjusted to it - that much was clear.

He lost against Matthysse, against Kotelnik, against Khan, against Bradley, against Porter.. He's beaten journeymen like Purdy and Soto Karass and 40 year old Randall Bailey since the Maidana fight. Wooo..

You haven't even seen the Abril fight Even that was like 3-4 years ago when Rios couldn't even make weight. He's clearly a much different fighter now under Robert Garcia.

Outboxed by Alvarado Same guy he's brutally knocked out twice.

Who has Devon Alexander ever toyed with? no one is who. There's no evidence to suggest Rios would be an easy fight for him.

He is better at everything except getting hit in the face.

And Alexander has a pretty great chin at that

So I ask again - Does he have a better jab? Better power shot? More power? Better chin? Better footwork? More KOs? Better punch variety? Better aggression?

He's faster than Rios for sure. With his punching. But he's feather fisted and moves like a cattle wagon.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Alexander should have been disqualified for holding? Does the same apply to Brook against Porter I wonder?

I have absolutely seen the Abril fight and he was completely outboxed and outclassed. You can go search for my posts on the fight from the time if you want. There was literally a case for Abril winning every single round.

He stopped Alvarado in the first fight which was back n forth and was quite a questionable stoppage - not brutally KO'd. Alvarado absolutely boxed his **** off in the second fight and this is Mike Alvarardo who isn't even much of a boxer at all. Who even counts the 3rd fight? He'd just been battered by Provo and JMM, was clearly brain damaged and didn't train. And again...its Mike Alvarado

Rios is a bog standard face first brawler. Alexander is faster, better handspeed, footspeed, defence, counter-punching. You name it.

Just better in every area except getting hit in the face like a mong

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I would pick Chris Algieri to school Rios, let alone Alexander.

This debate is silly because I've already agreed that Rios is a good opponent for Brook as a defence but not because of his skill level

[LacedUp]

Alexander should have been disqualified for holding? Does the same apply to Brook against Porter I wonder?

I have absolutely seen the Abril fight and he was completely outboxed and outclassed. You can go search for my posts on the fight from the time if you want. There was literally a case for Abril winning every single round.

Comparing Brook's holding to Alexander's. Alexander vs Maidana would have made Klitschko and Hopkins sit down and take note.

Not only did Alexander reach out to specifically grab Maidana, he also did it 112 times I think CompuClinch said. Brook's was much less and Porter was coming in head first and rabbit punching 100 times - something that also resulted in bad cuts for both guys.

It was a close fight with many many close rounds. However, you are still talking things that happened 3-4 years ago. As in who gives a ***, I'm talking now.

[LacedUp]

I would pick Chris Algieri to school Rios, let alone Alexander.

This debate is silly because I've already agreed that Rios is a good opponent for Brook as a defence but not because of his skill level

Algieri school Rios?

Now I know you're smoking crack.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Comparing Brook's holding to Alexander's. Alexander vs Maidana would have made Klitschko and Hopkins sit down and take note.

Not only did Alexander reach out to specifically grab Maidana, he also did it 112 times I think CompuClinch said. Brook's was much less and Porter was coming in head first and rabbit punching 100 times - something that also resulted in bad cuts for both guys.

Holding is OK when it suits you and is done by one of your favourite fighters. Gotcha.

It was a close fight with many many close rounds. However, you are still talking things that happened 3-4 years ago. As in who gives a ***, I'm talking now.

I don't think you've seen the fight. It's widely regarded as one of the worst robberies in recent history. The fact that you keep having to harp on about how many years ago it was and what weight it was at shows you don't really believe it was close.

He lost virtually, if not every round to Richar Abril - a guy who has pulled out twice against Derry Matthews. It's relevant to the level of ability that Brandon Rios has....which is not very much at all.

Algieri school Rios?

Now I know you're smoking crack.

Algieri outboxed Provodnikov. I'd consider Rios a similar level and style fighter. Provodnikov destroyed Alvarado after he'd just boxed Rios' **** off in his previous fight.

Is Rios even a top 10 welterweight? I find it funny cos I see you calling me out in other threads that I wasn't aware of about Collazo so will be interesting what your take is.

[LacedUp]

Holding is OK when it suits you and is done by one of your favourite fighters. Gotcha.

I don't think you've seen the fight. It's widely regarded as one of the worst robberies in recent history. The fact that you keep having to harp on about how many years ago it was and what weight it was at shows you don't really believe it was close.

He lost virtually, if not every round to Richar Abril - a guy who has pulled out twice against Derry Matthews. It's relevant to the level of ability that Brandon Rios has....which is not very much at all.

Algieri outboxed Provodnikov. I'd consider Rios a similar level and style fighter. Provodnikov destroyed Alvarado after he'd just boxed Rios' **** off in his previous fight.

Is Rios even a top 10 welterweight? I find it funny cos I see you calling me out in other threads that I wasn't aware of about Collazo so will be interesting what your take is.

Not at all. but there's a clear difference in holding when someone is headbutting and rabbitpunching and using holding as some weird form of attack.

I have said I also felt Rios lost. I felt it was 8-4 kind of fight. But many of the rounds were close. It's not like Rios was completely outclassed as what you're suggesting. People tend to over exaggerate a bad decision i.e. Garcia vs Peterson in the weekend. It was a closer fight than Rios-Abril, yet people are claiming it was massive robbery etc.

But Rios couldn't make weight and moved up the next fight? That clearly shows he wasn't in that division any longer. Not to mention he looked like he was straight out of Auschwitz:



http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-br...h-abril--51747

You're not telling me that wasn't a factor in the fight.

Lol Rios a top 10? Not at all.

I'm not even saying he's that good - I'm just saying he's not as crap as you make out as well as a better fight than Devon Alexander right now.

I think Rios would eat Algieri alive.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Peterson-Garcia is reactionary ****.

There was a thread recently about worst robberies of the last decade or something and Rios-Abril was mentioned more than once.

Rios is an absolute piece of piss to outbox as long as you move and give him angles. Brook is a bit flatfooted so he could have some issues.

[LacedUp]

Peterson-Garcia is reactionary ****.

There was a thread recently about worst robberies of the last decade or something and Rios-Abril was mentioned more than once.

Rios is an absolute piece of piss to outbox as long as you move and give him angles. Brook is a bit flatfooted so he could have some issues.

Brook flat footed?

Now I've heard it all.