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  • #11
    This fight needs to happen in MSG.

    Canelo can really earn his stripes going to Cotto's house and beating him. I know personally speaking, he could really win me over as a fan if he did that.

    In the previous two years, I railed against him as an upstart pampered hero for refusing to fight on Floyd's undercards post "Ring Kings" but then he went on to fight some fights he didn't have to, he fought Trout and Lara and he's winning me over. Beating Cotto, at MSG without controversy, all the respects.

    Last year when this fight was proposed, pre-Martinez, I couldn't understand it. I thought glory was with fighting Martinez. Then Cotto stepped up and fought Martinez and Canelo stepped up and beat Lara.

    Now it's time for either a passing of the torch or the set up for a rematch/trilogy. There isn't the stink of Al Haymon, this will be a good ol' clash of youth vs veteran, old vs new, PR vs Mex. 2015 overall promises to be the end of the era. These new upstarts overall are a few steps below the fighters of the last decade. These guys are all diva types with sub-par skills.

    I hope for the next 10 years, Canelo along with Verdejo, Loma can put boxing on the right path once the old guard finally leaves.

    Think about, 2015 could be the end for the following fighters all Hall of Famers: Floyd, Pac, Hopkins, Cotto, JMM, Froch and maybe Martinez. Kinda sad when you think about it. I'd say for all these fighters, I grew up with them, now 31. These new cats, nobody worthwhile, hiding behind their promoters looking for the easiest way to the top

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    • #12
      Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
      This fight needs to happen in MSG.

      Canelo can really earn his stripes going to Cotto's house and beating him. I know personally speaking, he could really win me over as a fan if he did that.

      In the previous two years, I railed against him as an upstart pampered hero for refusing to fight on Floyd's undercards post "Ring Kings" but then he went on to fight some fights he didn't have to, he fought Trout and Lara and he's winning me over. Beating Cotto, at MSG without controversy, all the respects.

      Last year when this fight was proposed, pre-Martinez, I couldn't understand it. I thought glory was with fighting Martinez. Then Cotto stepped up and fought Martinez and Canelo stepped up and beat Lara.

      Now it's time for either a passing of the torch or the set up for a rematch/trilogy. There isn't the stink of Al Haymon, this will be a good ol' clash of youth vs veteran, old vs new, PR vs Mex. 2015 overall promises to be the end of the era. These new upstarts overall are a few steps below the fighters of the last decade. These guys are all diva types with sub-par skills.

      I hope for the next 10 years, Canelo along with Verdejo, Loma can put boxing on the right path once the old guard finally leaves.

      Think about, 2015 could be the end for the following fighters all Hall of Famers: Floyd, Pac, Hopkins, Cotto, JMM, Froch and maybe Martinez. Kinda sad when you think about it. I'd say for all these fighters, I grew up with them, now 31. These new cats, nobody worthwhile, hiding behind their promoters looking for the easiest way to the top
      It's not going to happen there. If Canelo's camp was okay with that, The fight would have been signed a while ago. It is not happening there. It's probably going to happen in Vegas in June.

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      • #13
        Put it in a Big City like Chicago. The Fight could take place at the United Center, Wrigley Field, Soldier Field. That would be fantastic. Get a bigger boxing presence in that city.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
          This fight needs to happen in MSG.

          Canelo can really earn his stripes going to Cotto's house and beating him. I know personally speaking, he could really win me over as a fan if he did that.

          In the previous two years, I railed against him as an upstart pampered hero for refusing to fight on Floyd's undercards post "Ring Kings" but then he went on to fight some fights he didn't have to, he fought Trout and Lara and he's winning me over. Beating Cotto, at MSG without controversy, all the respects.

          Last year when this fight was proposed, pre-Martinez, I couldn't understand it. I thought glory was with fighting Martinez. Then Cotto stepped up and fought Martinez and Canelo stepped up and beat Lara.

          Now it's time for either a passing of the torch or the set up for a rematch/trilogy. There isn't the stink of Al Haymon, this will be a good ol' clash of youth vs veteran, old vs new, PR vs Mex. 2015 overall promises to be the end of the era. These new upstarts overall are a few steps below the fighters of the last decade. These guys are all diva types with sub-par skills.

          I hope for the next 10 years, Canelo along with Verdejo, Loma can put boxing on the right path once the old guard finally leaves.

          Think about, 2015 could be the end for the following fighters all Hall of Famers: Floyd, Pac, Hopkins, Cotto, JMM, Froch and maybe Martinez. Kinda sad when you think about it. I'd say for all these fighters, I grew up with them, now 31. These new cats, nobody worthwhile, hiding behind their promoters looking for the easiest way to the top
          really nice post..
          as long as they fight on 5 de mayo weekend, they should fight where they get the most money, and if that place is MSG then bring it on... even know i could watch it live if it happens in texas...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by BrushMyHair View Post
            It's not going to happen there. If Canelo's camp was okay with that, The fight would have been signed a while ago. It is not happening there. It's probably going to happen in Vegas in June.
            a lil monetary persuasion will get him there. MSG is fair I think in terms of judging.

            It's once every 10 or so years a fighter shows up who owns the Garden. Some of the greatest fighters who ever lived fought at the Garden. Why wouldn't Canelo want a chance to shine at the Mecca?

            If he's worried about underrepresenation, well, that's ******. He'll have 10 years of being the token irish mexican to sell out wonderfully at Vegas or Texas. Fighting and beating Cotto, in front of a max crowd, in what will be an entertaining fight has to override everything else. Mexicans were in the house when I was there for the Margarito fight. He'll have supporters.

            Bottom line...**** Vegas, **** Chicago, **** all them other cites. NYC or bust - I'm trying to attend that ish!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JmH Reborn View Post
              a lil monetary persuasion will get him there. MSG is fair I think in terms of judging.

              It's once every 10 or so years a fighter shows up who owns the Garden. Some of the greatest fighters who ever lived fought at the Garden. Why wouldn't Canelo want a chance to shine at the Mecca?

              If he's worried about underrepresenation, well, that's ******. He'll have 10 years of being the token irish mexican to sell out wonderfully at Vegas or Texas. Fighting and beating Cotto, in front of a max crowd, in what will be an entertaining fight has to override everything else. Mexicans were in the house when I was there for the Margarito fight. He'll have supporters.

              Bottom line...**** Vegas, **** Chicago, **** all them other cites. NYC or bust - I'm trying to attend that ish!
              If it happens in NY, It will be at Barclays.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BrushMyHair View Post
                The Venue is what is holding this crap up.


                Places the fight won't happen

                Cowboys Stadium
                AT&T Center
                Toyota Center
                American Airlines Center
                Madison Square Garden
                Barclays Center
                Boardwalk Hall
                Staples Center
                Stub Hub Arena
                Mexico
                Puerto Rico



                Places the fight could or should happen

                MGM Grand not in May
                Mandalay Bay
                Thomas and Mack center
                United Center
                Joe Louis Arena

                Personally, I think that if it doesn't happen at the MGM Grand, It will happen at the Thomas and Mack Center.


                Holding it up? Didn't they just start?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by BrushMyHair View Post
                  If it happens in NY, It will be at Barclays.
                  Why would Cotto fight at Barclays? That would presume that Cotto allows GBP to run the operations of this promotion. TR and Cotto will want MSG. They are to him, what MGM Grand is to Floyd.

                  Why fight at the Thomas and Mack when you can go to the MGM. Why fight at Barclays when the Garden is available. Barclays has no history to its name. At least when Cotto fought at Yankee stadium when the Garden was undergoing renovations, it was effin the new Yankee stadium. Barclays, the home of the Nets.

                  That's like being married to a 10, and cheating on her with a 5. Just doesn't even make sense, even if your wife is a b**ch

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Evil Abed View Post
                    Holding it up? Didn't they just start?
                    They Restarted it because they may have come to an agreement on a date and place. I think it will be on PR Pride week at the MGM Grand. Now if Cotto wants to insist on NY, Then GGG is more than willing to take that fight at MSG.

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                    • #20
                      why can't they fight in danny garcia's home aka puerto rico?

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