The Official Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez Master Thread

[Bardock]

It was both.

this, a combo.

Quick question. You guys really do believe Cotto took punches from a crude brawler/power puncher who had plaster and didn't receive permanent damage some how? He didn't end up with no brain injuries or nothing serious enough to insinuate he had plaster? "Look at the pic doe" State of California never found plaster but you Ricans take it as fact.

Pacquaio loss= Steroids.

Trout= Didn't train

Margarito= Plaster

Floyd= most ricans called robbery after the fight (seriously)

Whats going to be your excuse come November 22nd?

[icha]

Shit is starting to look like the Cotto-Martinez thread all over again.

icha posted: canelo is going to brutally stop cotto... hide the children..

[bigjavi973]

Quick question. You guys really do believe Cotto took punches from a crude brawler/power puncher who had plaster and didn't receive permanent damage some how? He didn't end up with no brain injuries or nothing serious enough to insinuate he had plaster? "Look at the pic doe" State of California never found plaster but you Ricans take it as fact.

Pacquaio loss= Steroids.

Trout= Didn't train

Margarito= Plaster

Floyd= most ricans called robbery after the fight (seriously)

Whats going to be your excuse come November 22nd?

'CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, "Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times."

Inspector Guevara testified, "It [the knuckle pad] was a clean new bandage. But within it, in the inner layers of it, was another bandage wrap. It was not as white as a new bandage wrap would be. It was used and it looked almost like it was sweat soaked and that's what caused it to have the discoloration. It was harder in certain areas than it should be for pure gauze. It was definitely firm and hard. I believe there was a little bit of, it looked like old blood, on it."

'Mike Bray (an inspector who entered the dressing room during the dispute) recalled, "I observed what appeared to be a blood stain on the corner of the pad. I also noticed that it was moist and dirty-looking. The pad had the appearance that it had been used before. After looking at the pad closer, I could see a white substance smeared across the face of the pad and into the gauze. I touched the white substance, and it was hard to touch. It looked like a cast plaster or maybe a thicker type of white out that you would put on paper."


Capetillo on pads:
"They just throw their things in my bag," Capetillo told the commission.

The following colloquy exemplifies his testimony:

Q: Is this the kind of pad you usually use in a championship fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: Have you ever used a pad like that in a professional boxing fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: So is it your testimony that, when you wrapped Mr. Margarito's hands, you reached into your training bag and grabbed the wrong pad?

Capetillo: That is correct . . . I put my hand in my bag to pull out, they are like little pads. And by mistake, that I had those in my bag, I put them on and I wrapped them on without realizing that it had been a big mistake.


Who the fuck is dumb enough to put old used inserts in their bags? "oh the other guys just put things in my bag"...
You have to be an idiot to actually believe that bullshit.

Also this:

Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito's attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, "Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

Also:
2:37 p.m.: The hearing resumed after a break for lunch. Margarito testified he once asked trainer Capetillo why he did it, and was told, "Yes, son, I did it. It was my mistake." Margarito pressed. Why? "He said, 'Don't ask me.' "

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/18/sports/la-spw-antonio-margarito-sl

[Bardock]

'CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, ***8220;Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times.***8221;

Inspector Guevara testified, ***8220;It [the knuckle pad] was a clean new bandage. But within it, in the inner layers of it, was another bandage wrap. It was not as white as a new bandage wrap would be. It was used and it looked almost like it was sweat soaked and that***8217;s what caused it to have the discoloration. It was harder in certain areas than it should be for pure gauze. It was definitely firm and hard. I believe there was a little bit of, it looked like old blood, on it.***8221;'

'Mike Bray (an inspector who entered the dressing room during the dispute) recalled, ***8220;I observed what appeared to be a blood stain on the corner of the pad. I also noticed that it was moist and dirty-looking. The pad had the appearance that it had been used before. After looking at the pad closer, I could see a white substance smeared across the face of the pad and into the gauze. I touched the white substance, and it was hard to touch. It looked like a cast plaster or maybe a thicker type of white out that you would put on paper.***8221;'


Capetillo on pads:
***8220;They just throw their things in my bag,***8221; Capetillo told the commission.

The following colloquy exemplifies his testimony:

Q: Is this the kind of pad you usually use in a championship fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: Have you ever used a pad like that in a professional boxing fight?

Capetillo: No, sir.

Q: So is it your testimony that, when you wrapped Mr. Margarito***8217;s hands, you reached into your training bag and grabbed the wrong pad?

Capetillo: That is correct . . . I put my hand in my bag to pull out, they are like little pads. And by mistake, that I had those in my bag, I put them on and I wrapped them on without realizing that it had been a big mistake.


Who the **** is dumb enough to put old used inserts in their bags? "oh the other guys just put things in my bag"...
You have to be an idiot to actually believe that bullshit.

Also this:

Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito***8217;s attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, ***8220;Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

Also:
2:37 p.m.: The hearing resumed after a break for lunch. Margarito testified he once asked trainer Capetillo why he did it, and was told, "Yes, son, I did it. It was my mistake." Margarito pressed. Why? "He said, 'Don't ask me.' "

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug...o-margarito-sl

All I got from that is that they suspected plaster. Calcium and Sulpher? This **** is dead man. If plaster was found he would have been charged accordingly. But I guess Cotto, Karate kid, and his croc wearing fans know more about plaster than the state of California

[Bardock]

So you really do believe Cotto took a beating with plaster? No broken facial bones, no eyesight damage, no brain injuries. Fck is Cotto superhuman?

[bigjavi973]

All I got from that is that they suspected plaster. Calcium and Sulpher? This **** is dead man. If plaster was found he would have been charged accordingly. But I guess Cotto, Karate kid, and his croc wearing fans know more about plaster than the state of California

You mean the same state of california that revoked his boxing license:

The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law).

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

What's that Capetillo's cheatin ass STILL can't get a license?
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/03/19/boxing-javier-capetillo-california-state-athletic-commission/

[Bardock]

You mean the same state of california that revoked his boxing license:

The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law).

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

What's that Capetillo's cheatin ass STILL can't get a license?
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/03/...ic-commission/

So where's the plaster javi?



This is what it looks like. So they found "traces" of "supplements" that can be "found" in plaster of paris. See I could use quotations too lol Where did the plaster go? Did it just disappear from the wraps? I don't get it lmao. They never found plaster, ever. Sorry to burst you rican's bubble but that's the cold truth.

[Bardock]

It's too bad Tony had to use old hand wraps and every Rican and their mom ran with the plaster bull****.


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[bigjavi973]

So you really do believe Cotto took a beating with plaster? No broken facial bones, no eyesight damage, no brain injuries. Fck is Cotto superhuman?

Seriously?

Have you ever seen any of Cotto's fighte BEFORE the plastercheater fight?

He was getting hit flush & rocked by Ricardo Torres ffs and his face didn't look anything close to the marg fight.

Pacquiao landed more punches, 336 compared to margo's 267 his face still looked worse in the margo fight.

*pac 336 punches

]*plastercheater 267 punches

[bigjavi973]

So where's the plaster javi?



This is what it looks like. So they found "traces" of "supplements" that can be "found" in plaster of paris. See I could use quotations too lol Where did the plaster go? Did it just disappear from the wraps? I don't get it lmao. They never found plaster, ever. Sorry to burst you rican's bubble but that's the cold truth.

If "they never found plaster", why was Plasterito & his trainer's license revoked in the 1st place?