The Official Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez Master Thread

[bigjavi973]

http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/events/seconds.pdf

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The same state that found Capetillo and Margarito "not guilty" and then suspended them gave Capetillo a license to train fighters again.

So you finally went back & re-read... good... now that you posted that video from one of the links I provided... I will provide this as well from THAT SAME LINK where that video is from:

Since this video was posted on Youtube, here is a timeline of recent events:
Approximately two weeks ago, sources within the Athletic Commission contacted us because they were concerned that Javier Capetillo was going to work Al Haymon’s Spike TV boxing show in Ontario, California.
On March 9th, 2015, we formally filed a California Public Records Act request asking for the licensing application that Javier Capetillo had filled out. Capetillo had not appeared in front of the Athletic Commission body as a whole to obtain a new license after the cheating scandal.
On the day of the Al Haymon boxing event in Ontario, Capetillo was supposedly turned away from the arena and not allowed to work the corner for Margarito fighter Miguel Vazquez. According to Ernie Gabion, Vazquez’s opponent Jerry Belmontes protested to the Athletic Commission about Capetillo.
1. If the Athletic Commission approved a new license administratively for Javier Capetillo, what legal grounds did Jerry Belmontes and his camp have in getting Capetillo removed from the show?
2. What legal grounds did the Athletic Commission have in not allowing Capetillo to work the show if their own official documentation said he was licensed?
On March 18th, 2015, we received the following response from the Athletic Commission to our CPRA request for Capetillo’s license application form:
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

This contradicts the status of Javier Capetillo’s license as stated on the Athletic Commission’s own web site:

which is the link that you provided & told me to go to page 6.

[Bardock]

So you finally went back & re-read... good... now that you posted that video from one of the links I provided... I will provide this as well from THAT SAME LINK where that video is from:

Since this video was posted on Youtube, here is a timeline of recent events:
Approximately two weeks ago, sources within the Athletic Commission contacted us because they were concerned that Javier Capetillo was going to work Al Haymon’s Spike TV boxing show in Ontario, California.
On March 9th, 2015, we formally filed a California Public Records Act request asking for the licensing application that Javier Capetillo had filled out. Capetillo had not appeared in front of the Athletic Commission body as a whole to obtain a new license after the cheating scandal.
On the day of the Al Haymon boxing event in Ontario, Capetillo was supposedly turned away from the arena and not allowed to work the corner for Margarito fighter Miguel Vazquez. According to Ernie Gabion, Vazquez’s opponent Jerry Belmontes protested to the Athletic Commission about Capetillo.
1. If the Athletic Commission approved a new license administratively for Javier Capetillo, what legal grounds did Jerry Belmontes and his camp have in getting Capetillo removed from the show?
2. What legal grounds did the Athletic Commission have in not allowing Capetillo to work the show if their own official documentation said he was licensed?
On March 18th, 2015, we received the following response from the Athletic Commission to our CPRA request for Capetillo’s license application form:
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

This contradicts the status of Javier Capetillo’s license as stated on the Athletic Commission’s own web site:

which is the link that you provided & told me to go to page 6.

Do you know what "contradicts" means? It means he does actually have his license and they lied to whoever was asking about Capetillo's license.

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[North Star]

IDK why they suspended them but Margarito was allowed to fight again and I think his trainer actually did get his license lol if Margarito had plaster he would have went to prison and would never be allowed to box again. That is the truth man. I'm done with this argument.

The reason Tony and Capetillo didn't do time and get a life ban is because they were caught before going into the ring. Had they been caught post fight, the charge would have been different. Since Tony didn't actually get to use the tainted wraps and was caught with illegal inserts BEFORE the fight, they could only punish him on those accounts. The punishment would have been more severe if it was found after. Common sense, right?

[bigjavi973]

Do you know what "contradicts" means? It means he does actually have his license and they lied to whoever was asking about Capetillo's license.

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Seriously???

Did you miss this:

Since this video was posted on Youtube, here is a timeline of recent events:

read that carefully.....

Meaning in contradicts the website of the CSAC... also did you miss this:

On March 18th, 2015, we received the following response from the Athletic Commission to our CPRA request for Capetillo’s license application form:
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

[Death_Adder]

Did you forget the rematched? Go figure you have to go back 7 years, to a tainted victory and then like the plaster wraps forget the rematch even happened lol.

Wait what?? When the hell did they ever bust Margarito with plaster in the Cotto fight? Did I miss something? Or is this just another excuse made by Cotto fans to help them sleep better at night?

[Bardock]

Seriously???

Did you miss this:

Since this video was posted on Youtube, here is a timeline of recent events:

read that carefully.....

Meaning in contradicts the website of the CSAC... also did you miss this:

On March 18th, 2015, we received the following response from the Athletic Commission to our CPRA request for Capetillo***8217;s license application form:
The California State Athletic Commission has received your request for public records. Under the Information Practices Act, if an application for license is not granted, the application is exempt from disclosure. Mr. Javier Capetillo applied for licensure in September 2014, and was not issued a license.

http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/03/...ic-commission/

Yeah but then the bottom says that statement contradicts whats posted on their website, which has him listed as a trainer for the state of California. The very bottom of the site you posted from, which means someone is lying and it is the commission, if they literally have him listed as a trainer in California. Same way they have Abel Sanchez and Robert Garcia.

Do you know what the word "contradiction" means?

contradiction
noun con·tra·dic·tion \***716;kän-tr***601;-***712;***-sh***601;n\
: the act of saying something that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else

: a difference or disagreement between two things which means that both cannot be true

[Beater_of_ass]

Do you know what "contradicts" means? It means he does actually have his license and they lied to whoever was asking about Capetillo's license.

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Oh Bardock... the license a promoter gets isn't a training license. You know... you aren't a professional chef because you got that food handlers card you needed to get into order to work at McD right?

Maybe when Brady comes back in 8 years it's proof he never deflated footballs? Oh and it's not to be QB, it's to be the water boy, literally. You are proclaiming victory because your boy is holding a spit bucket... BWAHAHA!!!!!!

[bigjavi973]

http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/03/...ic-commission/

Yeah but then the bottom says that statement contradicts whats posted on their website, which has him listed as a trainer for the state of California. The very bottom of the site you posted from, which means someone is lying and it is the commission, if they literally have him listed as a trainer in California. Same way they have Abel Sanchez and Robert Garcia.

Do you know what the word "contradiction" means?

contradiction
noun con·tra·dic·tion \***716;kän-tr***601;-***712;***-sh***601;n\
: the act of saying something that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else

: a difference or disagreement between two things which means that both cannot be true

Yes exactly... and what's posted on their website is capetillo's name being licensed... its not that hard to read.

it's posted as follows-----

This contradicts the status of Javier Capetillo’s license as stated on the Athletic Commission’s own web site:

followed by this picture:


This is also in the very 1st paragraph of that link I provided before hand:

And now the California State Athletic Commission claims they never gave him a new license despite their own documentation stating a new license was granted on September 22nd, 2014.

[Beater_of_ass]

Wait what?? When the hell did they ever bust Margarito with plaster in the Cotto fight? Did I miss something? Or is this just another excuse made by Cotto fans to help them sleep better at night?

Sleep better at night? Cotto is a future HoF and Cotto retired Margarito. Everyone in boxing knows he cheated, some dumbasses on the internet saying he didn't doesn't bother me in the least. It's just comical that you and high school Rob Lowe buddies keep bringing it up and act like Marg was never beat by Cotto.

And, no Marg was never caught. But we don't know if he did or didn't... we do know he couldn't have used them in the 2nd fight and he didn't win a round.

[Bardock]

Yes exactly... and what's posted on their website is capetillo's name being licensed... its not that hard to read.

it's posted as follows-----

This contradicts the status of Javier Capetillo’s license as stated on the Athletic Commission’s own web site:

followed by this picture:


This is also in the very 1st paragraph of that link I provided before hand:

And now the California State Athletic Commission claims they never gave him a new license despite their own documentation stating a new license was granted on September 22nd, 2014.

So you agree then? That he does have his license? Cool.