Comments Thread For: James Toney: In My Prime, Golovkin Would Take a Nap!

[Szef]

What you've adopted is the cheat's mentality of "everybody's doing it" or "everybody's dirty" so as to excuse those who were actually doing it.



How would Usain Bolt be perceived if he failed a drugs test today? would people still rate his past performances where he got past the tests and set world records? No they wouldn't, they would be disregarded as chemically enhanced and he would be disgraced. They lose the benefit of the doubt. We've seen what changes steroids can make in the boxing ring, it's not a game, people get badly hurt.

Barry Bonds, another steroid user has been denied entry to the Baseball Hall of Fame, if boxing wants to be taken seriously fighters who fail tests will also be denied entry in the future. We won't have to worry about that any time soon where Toney is concerned because he has applied the same poor decision-making to his finances and continues to fight.

Two words: Lance Armstrong

[deanrw]

Dave Tiberi is better then anyone GGG has faced to date.. Lets be honest ..

Dave is from my neck of the woods, I have seen him fight many times, and NO, he is not better than everyone GGG has faced.

[New England]

i don't think toney stops golovkin. he was a precise puncher, but not an excessively powerful one. good / very good pop, but not enough to stop a fighter with a very good / great chin like golovkin.


i do think toney beats him. he'd be an open book for the counters. maybe golvokin starts to land the left hook high on the head, but i doubt it. i don't think he'd be fast enough to deal with toney's head movement and craft.


ud 12.


if toney isn't in shape, he doens't win.

[New England]

Two words: Lance Armstrong

lance armstrong tried to destroy anybody who tried to bring light to his steroid use. he's worse, in terms of his digressions as an athlete and competitor.


the only difference is the nature of the sports. in cycling, you win races and pedal harder. in boxing, you punch other dudes harder and more frequently to the head and vital organs.

[New England]

Dave is from my neck of the woods, I have seen him fight many times, and NO, he is not better than everyone GGG has faced.

have you guys gotten into any old man throwdowns about "whose wife aged better?"

[Butt stuff]

I put another asterisk to them because these guys were roided to the gills in their prime. Mosley, Jones Jr., Toney, Holyfield and probably Tyson too given his admission about cheating tests.

Imagine Golovkin on steroids then do the calculation on a fantasy match-up. Otherwise, spare me hearing about it.

GGG on steroids is a harrowing thought. He'd prob grow biceps out of his ****

[deanrw]

That's true to an extent but I feel like the whole point of these fantasy matchups is to pit them against each other at their very best. Then it comes down to styles basically. Besides, given the frenzy from hardcore fans, I suspect Toney would be highly motivated for this one. At his best, and based on what we know at the moment, he was leagues ahead of GGG.

Like I said on the first page, it all depends on which James shows up. When he was on point, an A+ fighter in my books. When he was off, more like a b-

if he was on, I don't think anyone in history would have a easy fight on their hands. How does Golovkin measure up? Well I don't think any of us know. He has it so easy. I do think he has the capability to be an A fighter at least, but it is too hard to compare because he has not had the chance to get that A fighter. This is why he needs to fight someone like Ward, so we can put him up with a fighter where we can truly measure how good he is.

[IMDAZED]

Like I said on the first page, it all depends on which James shows up. When he was on point, an A+ fighter in my books. When he was off, more like a b-

if he was on, I don't think anyone in history would have a easy fight on their hands. How does Golovkin measure up? Well I don't think any of us know. He has it so easy. I do think he has the capability to be an A fighter at least, but it is too hard to compare because he has not had the chance to get that A fighter. This is why he needs to fight someone like Ward, so we can put him up with a fighter where we can truly measure how good he is.

Totally agree with everything you just said.

[lefthook2daliva]

Maybe so, James. Maybe so...You were pretty hot **** at one time.

[Mr. Philadel]

Toney would win imo