How highly do you regard Lennox Leiws?

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  • Mitchell Kane
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    #61
    Originally posted by bender2000
    holyfield rematch I thought was close enough that he could have lost
    It wasn't.

    Originally posted by bender2000
    mercer also beat him
    He didn't.

    Originally posted by bender2000
    vitali kicked his ass
    He didn't.

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    • Elroy1
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      #62
      Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
      It wasn't.



      He didn't.



      He didn't.
      He beat Holyfield convincingly

      He only JUST beat MErcer.

      The decision to stop the fight and award it to Lennox was a necessary decision BUT Vitali most definitely kicked his ass! And Lennox knew there was no way he could beat him in a rematch.

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      • bender2000
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        #63
        in my opinion ali would have made a fool of him, too fast the footspeed and movement would outclass him , lewis looked good against some mediocre heavyweights but no one of real class , he also had fights where he looked very bad slow and lumbering with a suspect chin, an over the hill frank Bruno was even outboxing him at the beginning of there fight, just my opinion everyones entitled to a different one.
        Last edited by bender2000; 10-30-2014, 02:33 AM.

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        • Weltschmerz
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          #64
          Lennox is the strongest HW of all time. His resume isn't as stellar as you would assume normally, but he built himself a fine legacy. H2H he takes just about anybody, any day of the week.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #65
            Originally posted by beez721
            l dont think lennox was that good a combination or body puncher but I agree with the rest. top 10 easily imo
            For a heavyweight? He absolutely was.

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            • alexguiness
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              #66
              Top 5 easily.

              Strong case for top 3.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #67
                He's probably a top 10 ATG in the division. I'd assume he is, but don't want to say I'm certain without actually looking.

                H2H he's about as dangerous as there is. I doubt any HW can beat him easily, and he'd have a good chance against anyone.

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                • billeau2
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  ko percentage doesn't mean you are a big puncher. calzaghe had a high ko percentage. fighting out of shape opponents plus having a style that consists of throwing a lot of slappy punches is a recipe for getting a lot of stoppages but getting stoppages and having power are 2 different things.
                  It does in the heavyweight division! Can you think of a heavyweight with whatwould be considered a great Ko percentage who did so wearing opponent's down? I doubt it (I could be wrong on this).

                  I do think that the level of comp faced here is meaningful, i.e. Vitali kayooing a bunch of c level fighters is a relevant point, but Vitali does have a good punch.

                  Lewis does not have the movement and finesse of guys like Tyson and Hollyfield, but...he uses his size well and defends well. Watch him defend against Briggs for example...He was horrendous against Klitschko because he trained for shizzle to fight a scrub and took the fight at the last minute. I should clarify this last point: he was planing on fighting Kirk Johnson a feather fisted canuck with less head movement than a statue and a fat little physique....and wound up fighting Vitali
                  Last edited by billeau2; 10-30-2014, 07:43 AM.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by billeau2
                    It does in the heavyweight division! Can you think of a heavyweight with whatwould be considered a great Ko percentage who did so wearing opponent's down? I doubt it (I could be wrong on this).

                    I do think that the level of comp faced here is meaningful, i.e. Vitali kayooing a bunch of c level fighters is a relevant point, but Vitali does have a good punch.

                    Lewis does not have the movement and finesse of guys like Tyson and Hollyfield, but...he uses his size well and defends well. Watch him defend against Briggs for example...He was horrendous against Klitschko because he trained for shizzle to fight a scrub and took the fight at the last minute. I should clarify this last point: he was planing on fighting Kirk Johnson a feather fisted canuck with less head movement than a statue and a fat little physique....and wound up fighting Vitali
                    And still managed to win. Great fighter, that Lewis.

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                    • billeau2
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Elroy1
                      I evaluate every boxer without bias.

                      And I can assure you there is scarcely any HW with a resume anywhere nearly as good as Lewis's.

                      Unless of course you are rating bums and cruisers higher than unbeaten mountains of muscle like Grant and Golota, or dangerous opponents like Tyson etc. in which case I would call you a moron!

                      You could say I am biased against cruisers padding HW records
                      You could say I am biased against bums.
                      No you don't evaluate anything without bias junior....But just like a broken clock is right twice a day, there is in fact an element of truth to your feelings about Lennox Lewis. Many of the fighters he faced, prior to facing Lewis were in fact considered to be very strong contenders. Lewis exposed them. This was the case not only with Golata, Grant and Briggs but was very evident in opinions at the time regarding Razor Rudock.

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