Floyd gets way to much hate.

[Mike D]

When people say this, I just have to shake my head. Do you think for one second fighters go into fights thinking they are gonna lose? Did Hagler think he was gonna lose to SRL? Did Pac think he was gonna get knocked out by Marquez or was he going for the KO? Floyd can do no more than any other fighter. Train hard, come up with a good fight plan and then fight his fight. All fighters take the fights they think they can win. He is "carefully undefeted" yet he fought guys who MANY was claiming he was ducking. Once he beats them, the guy instantly turns into a cherry picked bum.

Yeah I gotta agree. He still had to win the fights in front of him, and we're talking about guys like Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, Shane, Marquez, etc.

I rarely if ever defend FMJ, but megadeth is right.

[ADP02]

blah, blah, blah


who wants to walk around like Rocky Lockridge, Meldrick Taylor, or other good and great fighters who cant even take care of their families or remember their ring glory



You are clinging on to words and quotes but based off his accomplishments, record, and skills he is considered the best fighter of his generation for a reason...He earned everything he has and you don't go 22-0 against world champions and hall of famers being a coward.

I could have said the same about what you said. What Floyd has been doing of late is "hype and marketing".

So what that Floyd beat so and so? You need to analyze the facts not just say that Floyd fought so and so.


Best example I can think of is Larry Holmes beat Ali. Having Ali on your resume and beating him is awesome but the truth is that Ali was way past his prime and already suffering from Parkinson's by then. Did Larry Holmes beat a former world champion? A former #1 P4P fighter? Beat a former TBE type fighter? Yes Holmes did that by beating Ali but when you analyze it and remove all the smoke and mirrors, the truth comes out. By then, Ali was no longer the Ali that we considered to be so great.


The way you post is the way that Floyd sells his fights.
Example: The Marquez fight ..... but Juan Marquez is P4P #2 .......

[ADP02]

There is no defense for you , you are either a delusional fanboy that cant look at your hero in the true light of day , or youre a nuf nuf , they are the only options we have .

I don't do what you do bud. Criticize Manny for CWs then hide when Floyd does it. Then when asked, you say "but it's different when Floyd does it"


On the other hand, I will criticize Floyd but will also criticize Manny. The problem is that it's Floyd who put them roadblocks and says that he is not interested in the fight or any other risky fight.

Harder to criticize Manny when at one point the top 3 WWs wanted no part of Manny:
- Floyd, Marquez and Bradley



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[therealpugilist]

I could have said the same about what you said. What Floyd has been doing of late is "hype and marketing".

So what that Floyd beat so and so? You need to analyze the facts not just say that Floyd fought so and so.


Best example I can think of is Larry Holmes beat Ali. Having Ali on your resume and beating him is awesome but the truth is that Ali was way past his prime and already suffering from Parkinson's by then. Did Larry Holmes beat a former world champion? A former #1 P4P fighter? Beat a former TBE type fighter? Yes Holmes did that by beating Ali but when you analyze it and remove all the smoke and mirrors, the truth comes out. By then, Ali was no longer the Ali that we considered to be so great.


The way you post is the way that Floyd sells his fights.
Example: The Marquez fight ..... but Juan Marquez is P4P #2 .......

you are a troll bro

You don't even make any sense...there is no smoke and mirrors...you are just blind with hate


Dudes record against world champions and hall of famers is better than anyone fighting today....look it up

people do, numbers don't lie

Mayweather himself has been past prime since he has returned in 2009 at 32 and beat nothing but champions or hall of famers....Marquez, Mosley, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,Cotto and Maidana

won titles WBA/WBC at 147 and 154 being past prime...those are facts, you cant give your opinion and make believe like they are facts.

[Showtime..]

Yes all those accomplishments are nice but they don't change the fact that Manny Pacquiao has looked vulnerable multiple times before, including the time he got BRUTALLY knocked out by Juan Manuael Marquez. It's obvious people don't hate on guys like that.

Mark my words, people would change their opinion on Floyd if he took an L, they would relate to him more. I mean it's not a coincidence that all the guys that are hated on the most are doing pretty well... from Floyd to LeBron to Cristiano Ronaldo... people hate because they feel they have won enough, they are sick of seeing them win everytime.

Your fans bring you up to bring you down, they get mad when they CANT bring you down.

Lebron's lost quite often, but people still hate him. People still hate him because he's constantly hyped.

People would still hate Floyd because he's naturally a ****ing prick.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

I don't think it's "too much hate". It's just that a lot people see Floyd for what he truly is and are tired of how much he's overrated. He's not "TBE" (nowhere near close to it) and if we're talking legacies, his is very poor and doesn't match that of Pacquiao's, let alone Hopkins's (two still-active boxers like Floyd). In fact, it's pretty obvious he doesn't care about his legacy so why do some people still buy into his "TBE" talk when it's obvious BS?

People are just sick and tired of Floyd. It's really that simple.

[ADP02]

you are a troll bro

You don't even make any sense...there is no smoke and mirrors...you are just blind with hate


Dudes record against world champions and hall of famers is better than anyone fighting today....look it up

people do, numbers don't lie

Mayweather himself has been past prime since he has returned in 2009 at 32 and beat nothing but champions or hall of famers....Marquez, Mosley, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,Cotto and Maidana

won titles WBA/WBC at 147 and 154 being past prime...those are facts, you cant give your opinion and make believe like they are facts.

I made it simple so that even you can understand. Ali was not a champion/hall of famer?

Those names you put there are a huge joke and makes me wonder about you even more. Soon you will be bringing up Baldomir, the lineal champ ..... Like I said, smoke and mirrors. Only people like you can get had!!!

[Showtime..]

you are a troll bro

You don't even make any sense...there is no smoke and mirrors...you are just blind with hate


Dudes record against world champions and hall of famers is better than anyone fighting today....look it up

people do, numbers don't lie

Mayweather himself has been past prime since he has returned in 2009 at 32 and beat nothing but champions or hall of famers....Marquez, Mosley, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,Cotto and Maidana

won titles WBA/WBC at 147 and 154 being past prime...those are facts, you cant give your opinion and make believe like they are facts.

You are a complete r*tard. you ignored his whole argument that was very well built and you made a point that he already destroyed in his argument.

yeah Mosley & cotto weren't past their primes, JMM wasn't brought up 2 weight classes, Canelo wasn't drained, Guerrero & Ortiz weren't overrated bums that proved to be farces, Maidana hadn't already been completely schooled.

[therealpugilist]

I made it simple so that even you can understand. Ali was not a champion/hall of famer?

Those names you put there are a huge joke and makes me wonder about you even more. Soon you will be bringing up Baldomir, the lineal champ ..... Like I said, smoke and mirrors. Only people like you can get had!!!

Get a life bro

no matter how you want to change it, these are facts

you bring up the worst champion he beat but it doesn't change that fact that he earned the championship


Baldomir did win the WBC and lineal title in an upset Judah and stopped Arturo Gatti and beat Clottey...its a fact you have to face

I didn't even bring up Ali? What are you talking about?

Mosley, ODLH(is in), Marquez, Cotto are shoe in hall of famers

Genaro Hernandez is in the WBHOF and is on the ballot for '15 for IBHOF

Gatti is in more so for excitement than accomplishment

Corrales, Hatton, and Castillo may also get in considering their are guys who are less accomplished who got in and less exciting

Either way you slice it Mayweather has faced very good opposition...half his total fights are title fights, almost half his fights were against former titleholders
the lineal champions he beat are your fav Baldomir, ODLH, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, Marquez, Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, and Zab Judah.....that's ten......more than anyone fighting today....these are facts.....you spew biase and just troll

[Showtime..]

Get a life bro

no matter how you want to change it, these are facts

you bring up the worst champion he beat but it doesn't change that fact that he earned the championship


Baldomir did win the WBC and lineal title in an upset Judah and stopped Arturo Gatti and beat Clottey...its a fact you have to face

I didn't even bring up Ali? What are you talking about?

Mosley, ODLH(is in), Marquez, Cotto are shoe in hall of famers

Genaro Hernandez is in the WBHOF and is on the ballot for '15 for IBHOF

Gatti is in more so for excitement than accomplishment

Corrales, Hatton, and Castillo may also get in considering their are guys who are less accomplished who got in and less exciting

Either way you slice it Mayweather has faced very good opposition...half his total fights are title fights, almost half his fights were against former titleholders
the lineal champions he beat are your fav Baldomir, ODLH, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, Marquez, Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, and Zab Judah.....that's ten......more than anyone fighting today....these are facts.....you spew biase and just troll

So in your opinion if Broner got a DQ win over Maidana after getting his ass kicked the whole fight it's a credible win for Broner? yeah, we're not biased towards anybody, and neither are you towards Floyd