Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Floyd Would Beat Pacquiao The Hell Up!

[bigjavi973]

How so? A GOOD READ from a legit source for Floyd fans who think their hero is clean...

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one

So 3 failed A tests with the USADA...

In addition to this, he has worked with Heredia and Ariza this past few months. ..who know how long they've been working together?

Floyd's own boxers have failed drug tests.

Floyd's camp quickly overpaid to settle in 2012 their PED allegations suit with Pac because Pacmans camp subpoenaed for drug results of Floyd's for his fights vs Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto. Floyd did not produce the documents and quickly settled to end Pac's PED defamation lawsuit.

Would be interesting if floydie makes "donations" to the usada

[HeGotPacProblem]

First of all, Floyd asked for fully random blood and urine testing with no cut-off. Why is the guy who asked for "limits," not the "shady" one? 3 blood tests? Why did Bob Arum say Pacquiao could not fight Floyd in May 2012? This argument is old. Manny had 2 offers, he said no, so now he should move on, and fight the best available...NOT Chris Algeri.

So he has to take whatever he's given? A bs offer is not an offer. Get it to your head.

[megadeth]

How so? A GOOD READ from a legit source for Floyd fans who think their hero is clean...

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one

In addition to this, he has worked with Heredia and Ariza this past few months. ..who know how long they've been working together?

Floyd's own boxers have failed drug tests.

Floyd's camp quickly overpaid to settle in 2012 their PED allegations suit with Pac because Pacmans camp subpoenaed for drug results of Floyd's for his fights vs Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto.

Pac moved up many weight divisions while keeping most if not all his power and speed.
Pac lied about when he could drug test.
Pac lied why he couldn't drug test.
Pac walked away from a the largest fight in history over drug testing.
Months later, Pac changed his mind and said he could do 14 days testing.
While others were jumping on the bandwagon, Pac was not doing OSDT.
Pac asked for testing with Mosley & JMM and dropped it when they said "if he drug tests too".
Pacs stamina and power dropped off as there were more requests for OSDT.
Pac did a 180 turn concerning drug testing proving that all the excuses in the beginning were lies.

[StefanTosic]

I think Floyd doesn't want it now, because there were 2 offers turned down. Too many, I'm a Floyd fanboy because I point out the hypocrisy of Manny Pacquiao fans. When Floyd asks for testing, he's a coward, but now it's okay for Manny to demand VADA from Marquez. If Floyd says no 50/50, he's a duck, but it's okay for Manny to say Marquez is "pricing himself out" because he wants 50/50 or $20 million. I've called Floyd out for hiring Ariza, because everyone knows Ariza is "shady," but I can't get Pac fans to call out Manny for using Ariza when he was KO King. Floyd didn't fight Manny, but he fought Cotto, Guererro, Canelo, and Maidana, but Manny gets a pass after being KO'd by Marquez, 2 fights with Bradley (who lost to Provodnikov), and now fighting Algeri. Criticism has to work both ways, or else it's just hate.

Ok, I'm not trying to change your mind, I will just give you my point of view and stop there: the 2 offers were just ******, I see them as a weak "try" for Floyd "to make fight" just to be able to say "see it! I tried to make it but he refused!" but people who take it as a prove forget to say that he was giving Manny some ****ty offer, and remember it was at the time whan Manny was p4p number 1 also known as The A-side. Anybody with a brain would say there "who the **** this guy think he is???" He asked for the tests when Pac was p4p number 1, beside what he's calling the olympic style drug testing isn't at all the real olympic style testing. On the other side you're right he's a hypocrit for asking for vada testing after that because he should stick to the same story. I guess he became conscious of PED too late (I believe JMM was/is on PEDs).
I'd like to add something concerning Floyd fans calling out Pac for what Roach said "that it's their own fault for not having accepted the testing at the time". In fact the meaning of Roach's words is that now from this time distance they see what a coward Floyd is, they regret not having accepted usada testing Floyd proposed because frot this time distance it was a chance to make the fight and they regret not having accepted it at the time.
Marquez only performed good in Pac fights, thet his only opponent he was looking good against in his whole career, he haven't done much beside these fights, he even clearly lost to Bradley who Pac beat twice so that's another prove that triangle theories are not good. BUT BUT I'd admit without any problem that after what happened the 4th fight, he'd deserve more money than usual for the 5th fight, however I'm not sure about 50/50.

Speaking of Pac's KO's I already said a lot about them on the other topics, I'd just say that you are wrong on that one! Pac never had that KO power at 140 and especialy 147 to begin with, he's only overated because of the Hatton fight, beside witch he had no KO at the welter and jr welter divisions. There were a few of TKO which are not at all the same thing as knockouts, and the rest of his wins are mostly UDs, but I already wrote a lot about it, if possible go se some of my comments, I don't have to much of them so it would be easy for you to find them. Bottom line is there is nothing to blame Pac about his KO power and there is a lot to blame Floyd for being a hypocrite as usual and working with the guys he labeled before as cheaters.

You can see that most of us don't like the idea of him fighting Algieri. Yes there is always a possibility for Algieri to prove us all wrong and to prove that he's a lot better than he's given credit for, but on the other side there is 99% chance for Pac to prove that Algieri isn't on his level. Speaking of Algieri fight we are coming back to Bob Arum. It's his fault that Manny is fightning Algieri. Even Pac said that Chris' good but not a top level fighter and Roach is saying the same thing. He even said that didn't like the idea of a fight against Algieri. Plus Floyd have no right to complain about it because it's his fault he's always saying he's his own boss, while Pac has a boss, well guess it's true because Pac is not chosing his opponents (however he's willing to fight anyone), while Floyd is supposedly his own boss and he's chosing his own opponents.

[HeGotPacProblem]

Pac moved up many weight divisions while keeping most if not all his power and speed.
Pac lied about when he could drug test.
Pac lied why he couldn't drug test.
Pac walked away from a the largest fight in history over drug testing.
Months later, Pac changed his mind and said he could do 14 days testing.
While others were jumping on the bandwagon, Pac was not doing OSDT.
Pac asked for testing with Mosley & JMM and dropped it when they said "if he drug tests too".
Pacs stamina and power dropped off as there were more requests for OSDT.
Pac did a 180 turn concerning drug testing proving that all the excuses in the beginning were lies.

I'll take Mr Hausers article over a Floyd fan's anyday of the week.

What do you proof for Pacman roiding other than your own speculations? If Floyd with all of.his resources couldn't win the PED lawsuit I'm pretty sure you won't be able tl.

[megadeth]

hahahahah too funny please quote me on that. Oh don't worry, Ill wait...

Again with another excuse... "but but but but wat bout pacquiao?"
Now answer the question. Can you negotiate a fight with a recently retired fighter? He said a couple of more fights and by that time "Ima retire from boxing, boxing is not gonna retire me". GTFOH with your blindness.

That is your answer?...."but but but but wat bout pacquiao?" Why don't YOU ever answer a question..you are talking about excuses, but you make more excuses than anyone.

NO, you cannnot negotiate a fight with a recently retired fighter. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, Cotto he never wanted to. Now, can you negotiate a fight with a fighter, who doesn't want the fight??

[Fetta]

I'll take Mr Hausers article over a Floyd fan's anyday of the week.

What do you proof for Pacman roiding other than your own speculations? If Floyd with all of.his resources couldn't win the PED lawsuit I'm pretty sure you won't be able tl.

BPP already said that the 1 source for this story has backtracked and denied he gave him this info.

Probably why it died with this one writer

[Bronx2245]

How so? A GOOD READ from a legit source for Floyd fans who think their hero is clean...

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one

So 3 failed A tests with the USADA...

In addition to this, he has worked with Heredia and Ariza this past few months. ..who know how long they've been working together?

Floyd's own boxers have failed drug tests.

Floyd's camp quickly overpaid to settle in 2012 their PED allegations suit with Pac because Pacmans camp subpoenaed for drug results of Floyd's for his fights vs Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto. Floyd did not produce the documents and quickly settled to end Pac's PED defamation lawsuit.

Correction..."Rumored to be 3 failed A samples with USADA." This could've of easily been resolved if both parties agreed to fully random testing. What Manny should've done is to say, "I want tests by both USADA and VADA," but that was when Manny didn't believe in ANY testing. When did many start using VADA? Was Ariza still on the payroll when he started using VADA? I'm calling out Floyd right now...FLOYD MAYWEATHER'S WIN OVER MAIDANA IN THE REMATCH AND EVERY FIGHT AFTERWARDS IS SUSPECT BECAUSE HE HIRED ALEX ARIZA. Now please respond and say the same about Manny Pacquiao's wins while he had Ariza on his payroll.

[HeGotPacProblem]

BPP already said that the 1 source for this story has backtracked and denied he gave him this info.

Probably why it died with this one writer

What's BPP and do you have an article regarding this? And just because a source backtracked doesnt mean its untrue. I mean the Usada can grant waivers for failed tests if there were "exceptional circumstances" ahem....Lotta $. There is more than just 1 source in the article that points to PED'S including Floyd's own camp that didn't produce the subpoenaed drug test results as well as him overpaying to settle the lawsuit in 2012.

[Bronx2245]

So he has to take whatever he's given? A bs offer is not an offer. Get it to your head.

Floyd got a whole lot less to fight Oscar (@ 154 I might add), but he signed the deal, won the fight, and the rest is history!