Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Floyd Would Beat Pacquiao The Hell Up!

[megadeth]

he is talking about floyd. he had predicted that early in 2010 that if manny agreed to 2 weeks cut-off. floyd would have other demands. eg. leave arum, sign with tmt etc.

Or "we have to build a stadium, the won't might not heal in time"(6 months, we don't know who to contact)? You ever think he predicted that because he knew he would be doing everything NOT to make the fight?

this is on second link:
Pacquiao has known about the 14 days since Jan. 1 and said he had an email exchange between DuBoef and Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, that prove that Pacquiao had received the offer and rejected it.

"That offer was rejected a long time ago," said Arum. "It was off the table. They are just trying to get under Manny's skin. It serves no purpose than to aggravate Manny Pacquiao."

that was when the the pacquaio -clottey was sign. why revisit the 14 days cut off that pacquiao has rejected early january. floyd hasn't move at all while pac started from 6 weeks- 4 weeks -3 weeks from december 09 to january 010. floyd hasn't move at all. he's 0 days was announced to the press not on negotiation table where he is consistent on that 14 day window.

WRONG AGAIN!!! As representatives from Golden Boy Promotions work feverishly to keep a Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao megafight alive,[/B] Pacquiao has reached an agreement in [B]principle.
I keep asking you to show me this 6 wks and you still haven't. Pac shouldn't be commended for 4 wks, especially when his excuse for it was a LIE! What are you talking about? What are you talking about zero days was announced to the press, not at the negotiating table? Where is ANY proof that he wasn't asking for OSDT all the way until the fight. In fact, I doubt there is anyone on this board that knows anything about the those negotiations that doesn't agree that floyd wanted OSDT up to the fight......except you.....and you still haven't given any proof.

and the third link about the poll in 2009. pacquiao would demand no cut-off now. why is the fight not happening? and that poll is not part of the mediation in january or the negotiation in dec. mAke a poll now that ask if 3 weeks cut off is acceptable. with the same wording as the ts. 3 weeks would also win out as acceptable. it is human psychology.

What does what Pac would do now have to do with what happend in 2009? We are debating that. Again, I place blame at BOTH of their feets for the fight not happening yet.....unlike you who defends EVERY move Pac makes, even when you've obviously been shown to be wrong. Hell even as much as Floyd is hated here, the way the landscape has changed I doubt many would say that a 3wk cutoff was fair. Not to mention, the whole reason the poll was put up was because at the time it was a suprise to everyone that Floyd had offered the 14 days(contradicting what you've been saying about when he offered it) and they were being asked if it was a fair offer to make the fight. You know? Something Pac SHOULD'VE ACCEPTED??!!

why keep giving me links that helps my argument. i wonder if you're reading just part of those articles because all of those is like floyd's interviews-self incarceration.

I didn't. I read the whole article and know EXACTLY what was there. I am not here to try to make Floyd look good. If Floyd is full of crap somewhere, I will say it. You on the other hand are using every trick in the book not to admit the things that are proven right in your face.

[megadeth]

it is just to make a point the standard i set to floyd is the same standard i set to manny.
and you didn't get it

meaning they are both doing
"to make a fight with lesser fighters, for MUCH less money and prestige."

and you dont have any clue that floyd is doing it by not fighting manny.

Since Floyd started doing OSDT, has Floyd done less than what he offered to Pacquiao, to fight a lesser fighter for less money and less prestige? NO!!

Since Pac declined OSDT, has Pac done more than what he offered to Floyd, to fight a lesser fighter for less money and prestige? YES!

So no, it's not the same standard.

[Ruthless One]

Since Floyd started doing OSDT.

Does Floyd really do OSDT? That's all year-round testing.

[IIocano]

Keep putting on the pressure for your son you crack addict. I'm biggining to admire floyd seniour! Brah!

[megadeth]

Does Floyd really do OSDT? That's all year-round testing.

Nooooo, OSDT=Olympic STYLE Drug Testing. Key word is "STYLE". OSDT doesn't mean EXACTLY LIKE Olympic drug testing. It can be similar to it and not exacly like it and still be OSDT.

[luisivich]

Since Floyd started doing OSDT, has Floyd done less than what he offered to Pacquiao, to fight a lesser fighter for less money and less prestige? NO!!

Since Pac declined OSDT, has Pac done more than what he offered to Floyd, to fight a lesser fighter for less money and prestige? YES!

So no, it's not the same standard.

haha!
>to fight a lesser fighter for less money and less prestige? NO!!
>to fight a lesser fighter for less money and prestige? YES!

you do realized that no other fight would bring more money and prestige to floyd than the manny fight and vice versa. < having said that:
is this statements correct?
1.no other fight would bring more money and prestige to floyd than the manny fight?
2.no other fight would bring more money and prestige to manny than the floyd fight?

my answer is YES. and your answer is yes and no. biased much?

[luisivich]

Or "we have to build a stadium, the won't might not heal in time"(6 months, we don't know who to contact)? You ever think he predicted that because he knew he would be doing everything NOT to make the fight?



WRONG AGAIN!!! As representatives from Golden Boy Promotions work feverishly to keep a Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao megafight alive,[/B] Pacquiao has reached an agreement in [B]principle.
I keep asking you to show me this 6 wks and you still haven't. Pac shouldn't be commended for 4 wks, especially when his excuse for it was a LIE! What are you talking about? What are you talking about zero days was announced to the press, not at the negotiating table? Where is ANY proof that he wasn't asking for OSDT all the way until the fight. In fact, I doubt there is anyone on this board that knows anything about the those negotiations that doesn't agree that floyd wanted OSDT up to the fight......except you.....and you still haven't given any proof.



What does what Pac would do now have to do with what happend in 2009? We are debating that. Again, I place blame at BOTH of their feets for the fight not happening yet.....unlike you who defends EVERY move Pac makes, even when you've obviously been shown to be wrong. Hell even as much as Floyd is hated here, the way the landscape has changed I doubt many would say that a 3wk cutoff was fair. Not to mention, the whole reason the poll was put up was because at the time it was a suprise to everyone that Floyd had offered the 14 days(contradicting what you've been saying about when he offered it) and they were being asked if it was a fair offer to make the fight. You know? Something Pac SHOULD'VE ACCEPTED??!!



I didn't. I read the whole article and know EXACTLY what was there. I am not here to try to make Floyd look good. If Floyd is full of crap somewhere, I will say it. You on the other hand are using every trick in the book not to admit the things that are proven right in your face.

if you did indeed read the whole article, why did i able to highlight something in those articles that helps my argument. you had given me 6 links and all of it supports me.

i always believe that a narrative should be studied in the concept of its timeline.
and you purposely not doing that. your one narrative has 3 timelines that it makes issues really confusing.
this is the 2 timelines of the links you'd given me. each has different circumstances'
1.dec 2009. this is really the first negotiation. ON the negotiation pacquiao initially wanted 6 weeks cut-off with dates known. floyd wanted 2 weeks.
2.jan 2010. this is the mediation phase because they cant make the contract happen in dec.
3.it is when they offer manny a 2 weeks cut-off. the mediation just broken down 2 weeks before on the same 2 weeks cut-off issue.

see what im doing here? im just giving details just to prove my arguments. and what you are doing is putting a single narrative in the multiple timelines that has fallen out of its context.

you just cannot say that
"manny has agreed in no cut-off date in 2012 -because he havent done that in 2009 i conclude that he is avoiding the fight."
you have put two timelines with different context in one narrative. what is sad is you really believe that narrative.



and you keep referring to your link. those quote that you highlighted is not really relevant at all. but the quote that i highlight on your link is the one that what those articles really about.

[Undisput3d]

Pacquiao softened up by other fighters + wear and tear now all of a sudden floyds ready to fight him? Who knew....

[Reloaded]

Pacquiao softened up by other fighters + wear and tear now all of a sudden floyds ready to fight him? Who knew....

Built in excuse for you whiny girls isnt it , Manny should have said yes to 50/50 when they were prime and took his ass whipping like a good ol boy , now its Floyds ducking him , wait up Floyds cherry picking him .

You Pac fans are full of SHT !

[beez721]

Pacquiao softened up by other fighters + wear and tear now all of a sudden floyds ready to fight him? Who knew....

well,,,,as much as I cant stand mayweather theyre both past there best. I wouldn't call it a cherry pick if they fight but from all ive heard and read mayweather could have got paq when they were both prime. its a shame becuz the fight will be nowhere near as huge as it could have been years ago. theyre both faded fighters