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  • Blueduck
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    #161
    Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
    Best wins:
    Floyd- corrales, hernandez, De La Hoya
    Manny- barrera, morales, De La hoya
    Not saying those are not nice (it might be my age and era) but neither seem to stack up with Hagler, Duran, Hearnes, and Benitez

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    • HeGotPacProblem
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      #162
      Originally posted by Blueduck
      Not saying those are not nice (it might be my age and era) but neither seem to stack up with Hagler, Duran, Hearnes, and Benitez
      I know, but it's a weaker era.

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      • MurkaMan
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        #163
        Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
        Way to cherrypick an argument by commenting on just their opponents for the past 3 years or so. Want to start analyzing on their WHOLE fighting resumes?
        U just basically compared the fighters at the higher weight classes! Since this is when Pac and Floyd fought in the same division. Didnt you just compare Marcos to Bradley? And trashed Ghost?

        Pac wont even fight Danny Garcia or Marcos, or Lucas. I would be mad as hell if Floyd fought Danny or Lucas btw.

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        • HeGotPacProblem
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          #164
          Originally posted by MurkaMan
          U just basically compared the fighters at the higher weight classes! Since this is when Pac and Floyd fought in the same division. Didnt you just compare Marcos to Bradley? And trashed Ghost?

          Pac wont even fight Danny Garcia or Marcos, or Lucas. I would be mad as hell if Floyd fought Danny or Lucas btw.
          What comparing did I do? I'm commenting on how you're cherry picking your argument by comparing their opponents for just the past 3 years or so. Floyd's resume is weak.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #165
            Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
            What comparing did I do? I'm commenting on how you're cherry picking your argument by comparing their opponents for just the past 3 years or so. Floyd's resume is weak.
            Your only saying this stuff because you had no reply. You said he beat the #3 fighter right? And compared it to Floyd and Marcos didnt ya?

            Then you mentioned the bum he is fighting now to compare to Marcos?

            Then you trashed Ghost? And ignored all of my replies.

            So I'll just copy and past the things you ignored; Well who df is the #3 fighter in the world? Bradley? Or JMM old azz who KO'd him? Beating Bradley and Rios means nothing considering what he has been through. This dude is a shell.

            And who is he fighting? Chris Algeri's bum azz? A difficult club fighter who ranks where? Anywhere near Marcos?

            And if Bradley was ranked in the top 3 I dont think thats fair. Marcos beat Broner, a much more prime fighter, more dominant, than Bradley beat Joel Casamayor a bum.


            Bradley never posed a legit threat.

            Marcos was 18lbs heavier than Floyd and Floyd is 37.

            And Pac still hasnt even fought a fighter on Ghost level despite the trash you say. Your not stoopid you know what time it is. Pac has only fought Cotto. One fighter and all this time wasted? Ghost is listed as shorter than Floyd, but boxrec and tail of the tape are always wrong.

            Ghost is big ass hell, tall, rangy, southpaw swarmer. His punches are close together unlike Ortiz who is a combination puncher, but has space in between his shots.
            Floyd changes his whole fighting and did him like Genero Hernandez.

            And btw Ghost did more to get a Floyd fight than Rios, JMM, Mosley, Margarita, and Bradley combined. None of those bums made any noise in the division and became top 3 before facing Pac. I think Bradley would be too small and weak for Ghost. Ghost walked through bigger punchers.

            Bradley probably cant even land lol

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #166
              Originally posted by Mike Bison
              I read a lot of key board warriors going on about how various boxers are overrated and never as good as people say. I hear the endless:

              "Mike Tyson only fought bums/C grade boxers"

              "Muhammad Ali wasn't even close to being the greatest"

              "Rocky Marciano's unbeaten streak was bull****"

              "Floyd Gayweather"

              So if someone can get it out there and tell me what their most overrated or underrated boxer is? Personally I think Mayweather is super ****in overrated, especially for running from pacman for so long. And Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali and Marciano will always be in my personal top ten boxers.
              wlad klitschko

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              • HeGotPacProblem
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                #167
                Originally posted by MurkaMan
                Your only saying this stuff because you had no reply. You said he beat the #3 fighter right? And compared it to Floyd and Marcos didnt ya?

                Then you mentioned the bum he is fighting now to compare to Marcos?

                Then you trashed Ghost? And ignored all of my replies.

                So I'll just copy and past the things you ignored; Well who df is the #3 fighter in the world? Bradley? Or JMM old azz who KO'd him? Beating Bradley and Rios means nothing considering what he has been through. This dude is a shell.

                And who is he fighting? Chris Algeri's bum azz? A difficult club fighter who ranks where? Anywhere near Marcos?

                And if Bradley was ranked in the top 3 I dont think thats fair. Marcos beat Broner, a much more prime fighter, more dominant, than Bradley beat Joel Casamayor a bum.


                Bradley never posed a legit threat.

                Marcos was 18lbs heavier than Floyd and Floyd is 37.

                And Pac still hasnt even fought a fighter on Ghost level despite the trash you say. Your not stoopid you know what time it is. Pac has only fought Cotto. One fighter and all this time wasted? Ghost is listed as shorter than Floyd, but boxrec and tail of the tape are always wrong.

                Ghost is big ass hell, tall, rangy, southpaw swarmer. His punches are close together unlike Ortiz who is a combination puncher, but has space in between his shots.
                Floyd changes his whole fighting and did him like Genero Hernandez.

                And btw Ghost did more to get a Floyd fight than Rios, JMM, Mosley, Margarita, and Bradley combined. None of those bums made any noise in the division and became top 3 before facing Pac. I think Bradley would be too small and weak for Ghost. Ghost walked through bigger punchers.

                Bradley probably cant even land lol
                You are cherry picking in your comparison of their resumes plain and simple. You only mention of their opponents for the past 3 years. The 2 have been boxing for nearly 20 years yet you only compare opponents for the past 3 years? Why is that? Floyd's resume is suspect. Why should anyone take you seriously? You're clearly a Floyd homer.
                Last edited by HeGotPacProblem; 10-10-2014, 10:09 AM.

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                • MurkaMan
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                  You are cherry picking in your comparison of their resumes plain and simple. You only mention of their opponents for the past 3 years. The 2 have been boxing for nearly 20 years yet you only compare opponents for the past 3 years? Why is that? Floyd's resume is suspect. Why should anyone take you seriously? You're clearly a Floyd homer.
                  I dont have to cherrypick anything. I only talked about fighters that were relevant to YOUR comment. So since you cant respond to it lets just go our separate ways! Tnx come again.

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                  • Elroy1
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                    #169
                    Muhammad Ali is beyond any distant 2nd place for most overrated boxer in history.

                    Basically a B, or even C-level boxer who frequently gets rated as GOAT, although not with any serious reflection.

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                      #170
                      Mike Tyson, the general population doesn't grasp that many boxers are much more skilled than he was

                      manny pacq and his improvements, couldn't crack the Marquez code despite all the hype of a new & improved manny

                      Ali, because he's not the GOAT, but the general pop believes he is due to clever self-promotion

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