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  • Da Machine
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    #31
    Originally posted by big_james10
    Wow! Really! Please answer a question for me since you are so much smarter than everyone else on this board. What was Al Haymon trying to build by giving fans fights like Garcia/Salka, Robert Guerrero vs some unrated fighter from Japan that no one ever heard of and Broner vs whoever the hell that guy was he fought last?

    Is this what you call building something? If he is putting those kind of fights on Showtime when Showtime is paying big money for the fights, what the hell do you think Al Haymon is going to put on NBC sports when Al Haymon himself is paying for the air time? Do you actually think we are going to see Guerrero vs Thurman, Garcia vs Broner and Amir Khan vs Devin Alexander on NBC Sports? Are we going to see rematch of Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne for a piece of the heavyweight championship on NBC sports?


    If you actually believe this, then, to quote a famous modern day philosopher, "you don't know s....t about boxing!!!"
    No ones gonna read your wall f text you dumb son of a *****. **** off.

    Haymon has 105 fighters and millions in the hole for NBC. It's been reported before that Haymon has a plan, and that plan doesnt include Showtime. 24 cards for 105 fighters is not hard to do when you have 10 guys a card.

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    • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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      #32
      The Haymon situation is the best in a long time. He has to make good fights because he doesn't have the network guarantee like he did before. I see only good things for this.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Da Machine
        You guys really think Haymon isn't going to put his big dogs on NBC after spending all that money from his own pocket? He's clearly trying to build something here and you cant ****ing do it with prospect fights.

        Dumbass mother ****ing idiots on here are all so ****ing so stpid all the ****ing time. I truly hate every single one of you.
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          #34
          Originally posted by rubber band
          That just means these NBC cards are going to be STACKED, which is a good thing.
          What I don't understand is where the money will come from to pay for these stacked cards. This is NBC Sports (formally the Versus channel) we are talking about here. Slightly better than Fox Sports 1. Advertising and the gate aren't enough to pay for stacked cards with names. Like others have said I think he'll use this to build fighters and he's still gonna be working with Showtime for the bigger fights. If he has four regular, primetime NBC cards, those four dates might be big, but I doubt the NBC Sports cards will be anything more than showcase fights for up & comers like Errol Spence and the likes.

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            #35
            Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
            What I don't understand is where the money will come from to pay for these stacked cards. This is NBC Sports (formally the Versus channel) we are talking about here. Slightly better than Fox Sports 1. Advertising and the gate aren't enough to pay for stacked cards with names. Like others have said I think he'll use this to build fighters and he's still gonna be working with Showtime for the bigger fights. If he has four regular, primetime NBC cards, those four dates might be big, but I doubt the NBC Sports cards will be anything more than showcase fights for up & comers like Errol Spence and the likes.
            Boxing has generally done above average for NBCSN, with Haymon's guys they could feature boxing a bit more and make it a priority. They are losing MLS back to FS1 (which to me is a way better network than NBCSN) so what sports can really be invested in at all.

            If it works and does quality ratings I think NBCSN would spend a lot after the fact.

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              #36
              Originally posted by big_james10
              Wow! Really! Please answer a question for me since you are so much smarter than everyone else on this board. What was Al Haymon trying to build by giving fans fights like Garcia/Salka, Robert Guerrero vs some unrated fighter from Japan that no one ever heard of and Broner vs whoever the hell that guy was he fought last?

              Is this what you call building something? If he is putting those kind of fights on Showtime when Showtime is paying big money for the fights, what the hell do you think Al Haymon is going to put on NBC sports when Al Haymon himself is paying for the air time? Do you actually think we are going to see Guerrero vs Thurman, Garcia vs Broner and Amir Khan vs Devin Alexander on NBC Sports? Are we going to see rematch of Deontay Wilder vs Bermane Stiverne for a piece of the heavyweight championship on NBC sports?


              If you actually believe this, then, to quote a famous modern day philosopher, "you don't know s....t about boxing!!!"
              If his ultimate plan is a subscription channel (as reported), he's going to need people to subscribe and they won't if he's not putting big fights on.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                Boxing has generally done above average for NBCSN, with Haymon's guys they could feature boxing a bit more and make it a priority. They are losing MLS back to FS1 (which to me is a way better network than NBCSN) so what sports can really be invested in at all.

                If it works and does quality ratings I think NBCSN would spend a lot after the fact.
                NBCSN is heavily invested in soccer and NHL as well. Still, their ratings are nothing to brag about.

                I'm just skeptical they will invest a lot of money into boxing and Im not going to get my hopes up. I think the supposedly four regular NBC cards is really cool though and thats the gold ticket. If Haymon can deliver big fights, exciting fights, on those dates and pull in strong ratings, that could change s lot of things. But if he f ucks around and puts like Lara vs Ishe Smith or some crap on those dates then he'll do more damage than good.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  If his ultimate plan is a subscription channel (as reported), he's going to need people to subscribe and they won't if he's not putting big fights on.
                  Like the WWE?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
                    What I don't understand is where the money will come from to pay for these stacked cards. This is NBC Sports (formally the Versus channel) we are talking about here. Slightly better than Fox Sports 1. Advertising and the gate aren't enough to pay for stacked cards with names. Like others have said I think he'll use this to build fighters and he's still gonna be working with Showtime for the bigger fights. If he has four regular, primetime NBC cards, those four dates might be big, but I doubt the NBC Sports cards will be anything more than showcase fights for up & comers like Errol Spence and the likes.
                    You had better watch your keyboard, fuckhead.

                    Dude might be the future.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
                      Like the WWE?
                      Yeah, that's what Hauser reported albeit he was unsure due to the losses the WWE have incurred.

                      By Thomas Hauser - Al Haymon is smart. “Scary smart,” one person who has dealt with him over the years calls him. He’s also adept at telling people what they want to hear, a good listener, and very much into control. In recent months, Haymon has added significantly to the growing number of fighters that he manages or “advises.” In a better-run sport, his recruiting methods might earn him a trip to the commissioner’s office to answer charges of tampering. Be that as it may, the list of fighters that he represents now includes Floyd Mayweather, Marcos Maidana, Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Amir Khan, Devon Alexander, Deontay Wilder, Peter Quillin, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, Erislandy Lara, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto, Chris Arreola, Sakio Bika, Gary Russell Jr, Adonis Stevenson, Chad Dawson, Beibut Shumenov, Jermain Taylor, Edwin Rodriguez, Lamont and Anthony Peterson, Jermell and Jermall Charlo, Leo Santa Cruz, John Molina, Rances Barthelemy, Luis Collazo, Josesito Lopez, Miguel Vasquez, Vanes Martirosyan, Dominic Breazeale, Marcus Browne, Terrell Gausha, Errol Spence Jr, Dominic Wade, and Rau'shee Warren.

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