Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Kell Brook Did Nothing To Deserve Floyd

[SUBZER0ED]

Well we all know he should have been in the ring with either Pacquaio or Sergio Martinez in that time. We've clearly had to settle for second tier fights instead.

Alexander was IBF champion. Why would Guererro make sense over him? Neither of them were at all known to the casual fan. The prime reason is that Guerrero is Mexican and Alexander is black. It's not a controversial statement. It's just obvious.

Maybe, but Alexander also sucks & can be very boring. That would have been a flop PPV no matter how you spin it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Well, just happenstance when in five years the only fighters you can think of is one that he fought, one that lost out on two chances and Devon Alexander.

I gave two clear examples of him specifically choosing a Hispanic fighter over a black fighter (JMM over Shane, Guerrero over Alexander). There's only so many examples you can give in a short period of time and they're both compelling enough examples to illustrate the point.

[SUBZER0ED]

LOL @ Jeff Mayweather saying Brook barely beat Porter. I liked Jeff more when he was just the quiet, slightly ******ed-looking Mayweather that the others didn't talk about.

[IMDAZED]

I gave two clear examples of him specifically choosing a Hispanic fighter over a black fighter (JMM over Shane, Guerrero over Alexander). There's only so many examples you can give in a short period of time and they're both compelling enough examples to illustrate the point.

I don't agree for several reasons. One, one could just as easily argue that after two years off he thought Marquez was a softer touch. That's what it seemed like to me -- and not just me on this thread.

Further, when he returned, he said he had a list of opponents he had targeted and Mosley was right there. Doesn't sound like someone who didn't want to fight Shane because he was Black. Besides, he and Shane sold more than any PPV in Pacquiao's history, for instance.

Finally, he did fight him. At a time when no one thought he would. So I just don't agree.

Your other examples include a Berto who lost what likely amounted to an eliminator and Devon Alexander. That's it. There just aren't enough people to come to that conclusion and you know it when you have to dig into opponents he actually faced.

[Teetotaler]

"He barely beat him" jeff is a ******

[justinussery87]

I mean , it is quite obvious Mayweather would rather fight a Hispanioc fighter on both of the biggest Mexican holidays simply because Mexicans will fork over any amount of money to watch another Mexican or Hispanic beat a black-American guy. Mayeweather is a genius and is getting rich from the brilliant idea. BAsically just playing with the hearts and loyalty of the hispanic fans.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't agree for several reasons. One, one could just as easily argue that after two years off he thought Marquez was a softer touch. That's what it seemed like to me -- and not just me on this thread.

Further, when he returned, he said he had a list of opponents he had targeted and Mosley was right there. Doesn't sound like someone who didn't want to fight Shane because he was Black. Besides, he and Shane sold more than any PPV in Pacquiao's history, for instance.

Finally, he did fight him. At a time when no one thought he would. So I just don't agree.

Your other examples include a Berto who lost what likely amounted to an eliminator and Devon Alexander. That's it. There just aren't enough people to come to that conclusion and you know it when you have to dig into opponents he actually faced.

That's not what I said and you're getting emotional because you think I'm attacking Mayweather. I'm just telling you what's obvious and what he clearly prefers. Given the choice of a black fighter or a hispanic fighter, he won't tend to choose the black fighter.

I don't know how many examples you need? I gave you two or three pretty clear ones. I guess you could also say Tim Bradley before he signed to Top Rank. Lamont Peterson after he "beat" Khan. They were never even discussed as potential Floyd opponents

[IMDAZED]

That's not what I said and you're getting emotional because you think I'm attacking Mayweather. I'm just telling you what's obvious and what he clearly prefers. Given the choice of a black fighter or a hispanic fighter, he won't tend to choose the black fighter.

I don't know how many examples you need? I gave you two or three pretty clear ones. I guess you could also say Tim Bradley before he signed to Top Rank. Lamont Peterson after he "beat" Khan. They were never even discussed as potential Floyd opponents

Not emotional at all. Let's just try and stick to the topic.

Your examples include someone he fought.

Someone who lost twice and he fought the winner instead.

Devon Alexander.

That's it for five years. Really, one solid guy that he could've faced. No, I don't agree.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not emotional at all. Let's just try and stick to the topic.

Your examples include someone he fought.

Someone who lost twice and he fought the winner instead.

Devon Alexander.

That's it for five years. Really, one solid guy that he could've faced. No, I don't agree.

You're just ignoring the points I raise because you're getting emotional. You do realise the fact that he eventually fought Mosley doesn't negate my point?

He could have fought Mosley instead of JMM. He didn't. He could have fought Berto before he lost. He didn't. He could have fought Devon Alexander over Guerrero. He didn't.

Hell he could have fought Shawn Porter - there's another one. He didn't. He fought Marcos Maidana twice. Tim Bradley. Lamont Peterson. Are these not "solid guys"?

[IMDAZED]

You're just ignoring the points I raise because you're getting emotional. You do realise the fact that he eventually fought Mosley doesn't negate my point?

He could have fought Mosley instead of JMM. He didn't. He could have fought Berto before he lost. He didn't. He could have fought Devon Alexander over Guerrero. He didn't.

Hell he could have fought Shawn Porter - there's another one. He didn't. He fought Marcos Maidana twice. Tim Bradley. Lamont Peterson. Are these not "solid guys"?

Not emotional at all. I think you're using that to deflect. You've brought it up twice now.

As far as Mosley, to say he prefers to fight Hispanic fighters because he chose Marquez over Mosley is your opinion. I'm of the opinion that he chose Marquez because it was likely a safer fight. When negotiations with Pacquiao fell through, he fought Mosley.

As far as Berto, Berto fought Ortiz with Floyd ringside -- with Floyd commenting on Berto prior to the fight -- and Ortiz won. Floyd fought Ortiz. To argue that he should've fought Berto is a little silly. To argue that he should've fought Berto before then (when exactly?) is even sillier.

I'd like to know when he should've fought Lamont Peterson. Or Shawn Porter. At this point you're just throwing out every Black fighter around but that's just not enough.