If pacquiao and ward were the same weight who would win?

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  • Reloaded
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    #21
    Originally posted by Check_hooks
    This is a joke right?

    Ward is the most overrated boxer on here and doesn't have a single HOFer on his resume

    Pacquiao hattons him
    Hahahahaha .

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    • MPX309
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      #22
      Problem is, are we talking shrinking Ward down to 147, or bringing Pack up to 168?. . . Either way would Pac still retain is small stature for his weight class at 168 so sort of be abit Cotto ish in size bit abit bigger, or would Ward be I dunno, Mayweatherish physique? . . .

      TBH I dunno, part of me says Pac would be too much, and another part of me says Ward out hustles him to a UD, so I'm on the fence about this one.

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #23
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        Not a snow balls chance in hell would Ward be a Bradley , Tim dont have 1/2 the skill set Ward has .
        I'm not saying they are equal in skill, my only point is that ward doesn't have a commanding lead/counter right like Floyd, Hopkins, Marquez, tsyzu, morales possess to control a fight... Ward's right hand is average and on par with oscar, Shane. It's decent but it's not his strong suit..

        Ward doesn't have the right hand that is needed to beat manny.. The guys that have beaten manny- morales and jmm were both able to beat manny by being able to blast counter and lead rights at manny all night long. Ward doesn't have that capability much like Bradley, cotto, margs, oscar, rios, hatton, Shane, oscar, etc...

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          #24
          Originally posted by LarryXXX
          Ward would not allow him to get off, he would hold foul and frustrate him and not even blink about it....
          Winner or lose,,, tell me a fight where manny didn't get off his shots and land..

          Froch and Kessler was finding Andre, manny will find him with ease...

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          • Capaedia
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            #25
            Ward drops an ugly decision.

            He has the ability to cut down Manny's workrate, and rough him up inside. These are things Manny struggles to deal with, for sure. Ward is technically superior.

            But prime Manny is physically superior, with enough nouse to beat a fighter that isn't able to get off properly himself. Ward would struggle to keep the fight on the inside difficult without the ability to make Manny respect him.

            While his defense is very good, it's not great. He can be hit from mid-range and few are better at adjusting their punches to hit moving targets than Manny is. Manny doesn't really need to be careful in this match-up either as Ward lacks the firepower of Marquez or Morales. He has certainly been nailed for being too reckless but can you see that happening here?

            It would be ugly and inconclusive but I feel it'd clearly belong to Manny due to faster (not better) movement and better punches/workrate.

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            • MrP4P
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              #26
              Why is this a debate? Lol. This is the purpose of "P4P" it takes these hypothetical situations into consideration, and Ward is the consensus is that Ward is the number two P4P in the world. Nuff said.

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              • Butler
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                #27
                Only Floyd fans think ward beats prime Pacquiao..p4p

                Real boxing fans knows Prime Pacquaio beats ward worst than Bradley..
                Past prime pacquao beat Bradley 2x

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                • Bigg Rigg
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  Take those punches and cut them more them in half..Ward would hold and spoil Manny while countering and moving and throwing in an occasional headbutt to cur Manny
                  Smfh thats such a lame way to win IMO

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                  • MrP4P
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Capaedia
                    Ward drops an ugly decision.

                    He has the ability to cut down Manny's workrate, and rough him up inside. These are things Manny struggles to deal with, for sure. Ward is technically superior.

                    But prime Manny is physically superior, with enough nouse to beat a fighter that isn't able to get off properly himself. Ward would struggle to keep the fight on the inside difficult without the ability to make Manny respect him.

                    While his defense is very good, it's not great. He can be hit from mid-range and few are better at adjusting their punches to hit moving targets than Manny is. Manny doesn't really need to be careful in this match-up either as Ward lacks the firepower of Marquez or Morales. He has certainly been nailed for being too reckless but can you see that happening here?

                    It would be ugly and inconclusive but I feel it'd clearly belong to Manny due to faster (not better) movement and better punches/workrate.
                    Physically stronger? Ward competed with Lightheavyweights.. That means if him and Pac were Featherweights, Ward would have experience fighting and beating, lightweights. Ward is physically stronger, cmon.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks
                      This is a joke right?

                      Ward is the most overrated boxer on here and doesn't have a single HOFer on his resume

                      Pacquiao hattons him
                      Kessler and Froch will most likely see the Hall of Fame one day

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