In a fit of salty-ness, Espinoza drops Canelo's real PPV numbers

[Hougigo]

Anybody screen cap it? He deleted it. I was going to do it efore I left...but forgot

[El-blanco]

He basically destroyed any credibility he might have had remaining. Nothing this idiot says should be believed.

[Hougigo]

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...923-story.html

I've heard 230k....okay, I heard Mayweather's last one was 772k

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[Bigg Rigg]

Ninja salty as ****! Lol Foh bro! Ya ninjas is losing money with Floyd while he's making tons of cake and putting a bunch of fake **** on all access. Y'all a bunch of clowns over at Showtime.

[crazed_z06]

Showtime lost.

[mrpain81]

I've heard 230k....okay, I heard Mayweather's last one was 772k

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Never said it was true.

Just bringing context to the circle jerk of misinformation being spread.

Btw what did Arum and HBO say about Cotto vs. Martinez? Did they ever release a number?

[Hougigo]

Never said it was true.

Just bringing context to the circle jerk of misinformation being spread.

Btw what did Arum and HBO say about Cotto vs. Martinez? Did they ever release a number?

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...r-views-subpar

The fight at Madison Square Garden generated approximately 350,000 buys on HBO PPV, Top Rank chairman Bob Arum, Cotto's promoter, told ESPN.com, a figure co-promoter Lou DiBella and HBO said was accurate.

Must've been misquoted or just outright making things up at ESPN

[Wolfie*]

What do facts have to do with hard feelings? It's not like he just blurted it out, he was responding to a question. And to reiterate, Cotto and Canelo's last 2 opponents were the fights that the fans demanded out of both of them. Only 550K combined? That's very poor compared to even Floyd's worst numbers.

The way he reiterated the facts says a lot about being bitter. No one is forcing him to answer questions.

[mrpain81]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...r-views-subpar



Must've been misquoted or just outright making things up at ESPN

Strange a few days later SI reported:

Posted: Thu Jun. 26, 2014


NEW YORK -- Sergio Martinez’s middleweight title defense against Miguel Cotto at Madison Square Garden generated between 300,000 and 315,000 pay-per-view buys, according to multiple sources involved with the promotion.

http://www.si.com/boxing/2014/06/25/...z-pay-per-view

Yeah but I guess Arum is the guy to go when you want the facts.

[4Corners]

People are celebrating these fights not doing good #'s......but I fear what this means when Mayweather and Pacquiao leave.

Like them or not....they are the ONLY TWO FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD who can draw big PPV #'s on HBO or SHO against guys most any casual fan wouldn't really know.

Mayweather will do 800K at least with most anyone, Pacquiao will do at least 700K probably on US soil against nearly anyone.

When these guys are gone, who's going to be the big draw to carry boxing, like Floyd and Manny ended up being once Oscar was gone???

**** arguing about #'s and ****, I want to know who's really going to keep this sport relevant in mainstream media like Mayweather and Pacquiao have for the last 7 years or so.