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  • MindBat
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    #161
    Originally posted by Victorious713
    Whats your point? The past is the past. Can't change that. Floyd was okay working with Arum then but how about now? Ok, lets all agree that Manny didn't want to drug test then for whatever reason. You know what, lets go all the way and say it was Manny's fault it it fell through the first time. Thats why you want to hear right?

    So just because it failed once, it shouldn't be revisited? Point is, Manny is willing to do drug testing now. If that was a reason why the fight didn't happen in the first place, well its not a problem now, right? All Floyd has to do is call their bluff on the drug testing, purse split and the promotion BS.

    Its not like they have any other people left to fight that is significant.
    Because its more complicated than what you're making it out to be.

    Manny could've made it much less complicated by...

    Instead of suing...

    1. Immediately calling Floyd's bluff

    2. Taking the same test Floyd would be taking

    3. Proving he's clean as well

    4. Beating Floyd like many thought he could

    The fact is Manny and Co. played games and played themselves out of a mega payday.

    It is what it is.

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    • Pigeons
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      #162
      Originally posted by teddycanyon
      Means very little unless you undergo the 365 day a year testing that Nonito Donaire does. Pac and/or Algieri could be juicing now the stuff gets out of their system by the time it's time to test.
      Nonito Donaire has looked very normal since starting year round testing. Nothing superhuman about him anymore.

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      • dan-b
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        #163
        Let's summarise.

        Manny and Floyd are not that interested in fighting one another. That's clear from both of their actions over the last five years. They've taken the fans for chumps, and made a whole lot of money in sub-par fights.

        Floyd's fans/fanboys don't want Floyd to fight Manny either, for various (mostly boring) reasons.

        Bottom line, this fight will never happen. But I'm sure the forums will get another few years out of this yet.

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        • Foreign Soil
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          #164
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          That's false. Every single substance found on the WADA list is tested for by both USADA and VADA. Tests are run for the same exact substances by the same exact laboratory. And that is the UCLA lab. It's not USADA or VADA that's really doing the testing work. It's the UCLA lab. So all the talk that one organisation doesn't test for this, and the other does, is all crap and propaganda.

          The same UCLA lab runs the same exact tests for both USADA and VADA.

          If you had money, you could start up your own organisation to do the same exact thing that USADA and VADA does, taking samples from athletes and then sending them to the UCLA lab. And your results would just the same. You just better have the money to pay the UCLA lab.
          That was my point. USADA isn't always going to test for everything. It's a simple funding issue as they're quite a bit more expensive.

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          • megadeth
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            #165
            Originally posted by Pigeons
            Nonito Donaire has looked very normal since starting year round testing. Nothing superhuman about him anymore.
            And that critique is being generous.

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            • maguirre
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              #166
              As usual, Froidweather's fanboys are all over the thread. Anything about peds, they're like vultures hovering on a carcass. As if we don't know their hero is the dirtiest of them all. Three positive peds test results and got away with it. What a nerve these worshipers have. Hehe...

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              • radioraheem
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                #167
                Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                That was my point. USADA isn't always going to test for everything. It's a simple funding issue as they're quite a bit more expensive.
                They test for everything on the WADA-list. And they have waaaay better funding than VADA. So again, both test for the same substances because the results are coming from the same exact facility. Don't believe the hype that one tests for things that the other doesn't.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #168
                  Floyd changed the game, no doubt about it.

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                  • NoConcoms
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by lfc19titles
                    what a mentally challenged child you are, manny never refused,
                    Straight from Wiki:

                    "After reports had surfaced that both parties had agreed to all terms, Golden Boy Promotions released a press release on December 22, 2009, revealing that Pacquiao was unwilling to comply with the Olympic-style drug testing requested by Team Mayweather"

                    Walk on home BOY.

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                    • KnockoutKings
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      Because its more complicated than what you're making it out to be.

                      Manny could've made it much less complicated by...

                      Instead of suing...

                      1. Immediately calling Floyd's bluff

                      2. Taking the same test Floyd would be taking

                      3. Proving he's clean as well

                      4. Beating Floyd like many thought he could

                      The fact is Manny and Co. played games and played themselves out of a mega payday.

                      It is what it is.
                      So are you saying you don't want the fight to happen now?

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