Top 20 Fighters Since World War II

[Pigeons]

Name one Hall of Famer that Floyd fought when he was in his prime? Don't tell me Marquez lol..guy was moving up two divisions looking flabby and was old.. and Floyd cheated him at the scales... I don't care what Pac did against Marquez..doesn't change that Floyd's win over Marquez was a farce against a guy who wasn't ready for the division...

De La Hoya, Mosley (over the hill and Floyd still struggled at time in both fights)

Everyone seems to be over the hill when they face Floyd. Take a step back and ponder whether it's Mayweather's skills that make fighters look ordinary. Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto were still every bit as good. Let's not forget that Floyd also fights all of these guys coming off great performances. DLH destroyed Mayorga, Mosley destroyed Margarito.

Only time will tell how many of Floyd's opponents will end in the Hall. Gatti and DLH are already there. JMM, Mosley, Cotto are shoe-ins. Genaro, Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Hatton, Canelo all have some sort of chance. Plus Floyd isn't done yet.

[MisanthropicNY]

NSB Floyd fans...

If you defend Floyd even if you use false information or contradict yourself = you're a great poster...

If you point out that Floyd has no legit wins against any Hall-of-Famer in his prime = you're just a Floyd hater...

[The Big Dunn]

All you've done is prove my point-you just want the rankings to reflect your opinions, you don't want to evaluate everyone with the same criteria as the Ring did.

The only criteria you are using is your disdain for Floyd. Man, you need to let it go and be an adult.

What criteria did Ring use for this ranking? Was level of opposition faced a criterion? If it was, then Floyd is ranked too high...[/QUOTE]
Look man-on the one hand you tout manny's accomplishments like his titles. cool. so when Floyd defeats 20+ fighters who accomplished winning world titles just like manny-you can't now lessen that accomplishment. when you do-you are also lessening what manny accomplished. don't you get that?

[The Big Dunn]

pacquiao

- 7 weight world champion (first to do this)
- 4 weight lineal champ (first to do this)
- BWAA, WBC, WBO, fighter of the decade 2000-2009
- named ring fighter of the year 3 times
- wins over future hof'ers barrera, morales, marquez, cotto, oscar, etc.

this is far better than floyd. all floyd has is his undefeated record.[/QUOTE]


Do you count Floyd's wins over HOF'ers as well? do you count the people Floyd beat who won world titles like Manny? do you count Floyd's FOTY awards? do you count Floyd's accomplishments or just manny's?

[MisanthropicNY]

Everyone seems to be over the hill when they face Floyd. Take a step back and ponder whether it's Mayweather's skills that make fighters look ordinary. Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto were still every bit as good. Let's not forget that Floyd also fights all of these guys coming off great performances. DLH destroyed Mayorga, Mosley destroyed Margarito.

Only time will tell how many of Floyd's opponents will end in the Hall. Gatti and DLH are already there. JMM, Mosley, Cotto are shoe-ins. Genaro, Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Hatton, Canelo all have some sort of chance. Plus Floyd isn't done yet.

LOL So Marquez moving up weight divisions and Floyd coming in two pounds over the contracted weight limit doesn't affect the Marquez win in your book?

The Cotto who fought Pac was drained and washed up after Margarito but he was every bit as good against Floyd...

Corrales is not a Hall-of-Famer and either is Gatti..and even bringing up Judah in the Hall of Fame is pretty much a joke...

DLH and Mosley were washed up by the time they fought Floyd come on..

You're reaching with this post...

[Divine Hammer]

In your mind they are, in the real world, you have to factor in wins and losses and when you fought the opponent. You have to use the same criteria, not "I luv manny" and "I hate Floyd"

pac's two early losses were when he was 17-18 years old and still living in poverty. pac avenged his loss to morales (less than a year after losing to him). bradley loss was a clear robbery, and pac wasn't in his prime anymore when he was ko'ed by marquez.

pac fought a prime barrera, prime marquez twice (pac should have won the first fight but one of the judges messed up), prime sasakul, fought cotto much earlier than floyd did, beat hatton at his best weight class (140), beat a prime undefeated bradley, etc.

pac's one win against prime barrera trumps almost anything floyd has done. not to mention that pac's wins against bradley is far better than almost anything floyd has done from 140-147.

[Divine Hammer]

Do you count Floyd's wins over HOF'ers as well? do you count the people Floyd beat who won world titles like Manny? do you count Floyd's FOTY awards? do you count Floyd's accomplishments or just manny's?

only guaranteed hof'ers floyd beat are oscar, marquez (marquez was coming up to welterweight for the first time, was cheated on teh scales, didn't have a proper s&c/steroid scientist with him) and cotto (way past prime, bloated, pac already beat him far better). corrales isn't hof worthy and neither is castillo. mosley shouldn't be hof because he cheated.

pac's two wins against barrera and bradley trump almost anything floyd has done.

[MisanthropicNY]

pac's two early losses were when he was 17-18 years old and still living in poverty. pac avenged his loss to morales (less than a year after losing to him). bradley loss was a clear robbery, and pac wasn't in his prime anymore when he was ko'ed by marquez.

pac fought a prime barrera, prime marquez twice (pac should have won the first fight but one of the judges messed up), prime sasakul, fought cotto much earlier than floyd did, beat hatton at his best weight class (140), beat a prime undefeated bradley, etc.

pac's one win against prime barrera trumps almost anything floyd has done. not to mention that pac's wins against bradley is far better than almost anything floyd has done from 140-147.

Pac's Barrera win does trump anything Floyd ever did not almost anything..

Barerra was in the prime of his career and ranked high on the pound for pound list and is an absolute Hall of Famer...

Pac won the first two Marquez fights clearly with knock downs and higher work rates in more rounds...

Pac's wins against Cotto and Bradley were more impressive than anything Floyd has done at 140-147...Floyd's Cotto win came after Pac TKO him

Not to mention Manny fought Margarito in his 8th weight division while Floyd took less money to fight a journeyman like Baldomir and got mad at Arum for implying that Floyd was ducking Margarito...

[Kuyukut]

putting fraud's name on the list with a title that includes, 'WW2,' in the title is disrespectful to the great WW2 warriors that gave their lives for our freedom.

they gave their lives (including health) for us to enjoy all the things we have right now.

[Kagami Taiga]

Hahahaha. Floyd is a great fighter. People need to get over it and move on. He didn't beat any prime HOFers? How the hell do you even know that already?