Top 20 Fighters Since World War II

[Divine Hammer]

Pac's Barrera win does trump anything Floyd ever did not almost anything..

Barerra was in the prime of his career and ranked high on the pound for pound list and is an absolute Hall of Famer...

Pac won the first two Marquez fights clearly with knock downs and higher work rates in more rounds...

Pac's wins against Cotto and Bradley were more impressive than anything Floyd has done at 140-147...Floyd's Cotto win came after Pac TKO him

Not to mention Manny fought Margarito in his 8th weight division while Floyd took less money to fight a journeyman like Baldomir and got mad at Arum for implying that Floyd was ducking Margarito...

exactly. pac's resume is clearly better than floyd's. it doesn't take much to see this.

pac also has accomplished more (won more world titles in more weight classes, was the first 4 lineal weight champ, etc.)

pac's career is by far more legendary than floyd's especially if you consider where pac came from.

all floyd has at the end of the day is his undefeated record and that's it.

[MisanthropicNY]

putting fraud's name on the list with a title that includes, 'WW2,' in the title is disrespectful to the great WW2 warriors that gave their lives for our freedom.

they gave their lives (including health) for us to enjoy all the things we have right now.

LMAOOOOOOOOO I ****ing love this post. Hahah I see what you did there...

[MisanthropicNY]

exactly. pac's resume is clearly better than floyd's. it doesn't take much to see this.

pac also has accomplished more (won more world titles in more weight classes, was the first 4 lineal weight champ, etc.)

pac's career is by far more legendary than floyd's especially if you consider where pac came from.

all floyd has at the end of the day is his undefeated record and that's it.

And it's not even up for debate anymore if you really analyze the fight that Floyd never beat Castillo in that first fight...

Castillo landed more punches at a higher percentage...he actually made Floyd miss more than Floyd made him miss LOL...

[The Big Dunn]

pac's two early losses were when he was 17-18 years old and still living in poverty. pac avenged his loss to morales (less than a year after losing to him). bradley loss was a clear robbery, and pac wasn't in his prime anymore when he was ko'ed by marquez.

pac fought a prime barrera, prime marquez twice (pac should have won the first fight but one of the judges messed up), prime sasakul, fought cotto much earlier than floyd did, beat hatton at his best weight class (140), beat a prime undefeated bradley, etc.

pac's one win against prime barrera trumps almost anything floyd has done. not to mention that pac's wins against bradley is far better than almost anything floyd has done from 140-147.

only guaranteed hof'ers floyd beat are oscar, marquez (marquez was coming up to welterweight for the first time, was cheated on teh scales, didn't have a proper s&c/steroid scientist with him) and cotto (way past prime, bloated, pac already beat him far better). corrales isn't hof worthy and neither is castillo. mosley shouldn't be hof because he cheated.

pac's two wins against barrera and bradley trump almost anything floyd has done.

Pac's Barrera win does trump anything Floyd ever did not almost anything..

Barerra was in the prime of his career and ranked high on the pound for pound list and is an absolute Hall of Famer...

Pac won the first two Marquez fights clearly with knock downs and higher work rates in more rounds...

Pac's wins against Cotto and Bradley were more impressive than anything Floyd has done at 140-147...Floyd's Cotto win came after Pac TKO him

Not to mention Manny fought Margarito in his 8th weight division while Floyd took less money to fight a journeyman like Baldomir and got mad at Arum for implying that Floyd was ducking Margarito...

putting fraud's name on the list with a title that includes, 'WW2,' in the title is disrespectful to the great WW2 warriors that gave their lives for our freedom.

they gave their lives (including health) for us to enjoy all the things we have right now.

Man, you guys are really sad. Just goes to show you where the mindset of the manny fan is relative to boxing historians/journalists.

One group actually cares about the sport. The other, well these posts make it clear.

[Divine Hammer]

Man, you guys are really sad. Just goes to show you where the mindset of the manny fan is relative to boxing historians/journalists.

One group actually cares about the sport. The other, well these posts make it clear.

top ten p4p (ranked #3 in their second fight), prime, undefeated, former unified 140 champ slick high IQ bradley >>>> guerrero, ortiz, maidana, past prime coming off over 1 year absence mosley, bloated first fight at 147 no s&c coach/steroid scientist cheated on scales marquez, zab judah, way past prime punching bag gatti, baldomir etc.

prime 126 lineal champ p4p#3 mexican legend barrera >>>> corrales, castillo genaro hernandez

[Pigeons]

LOL So Marquez moving up weight divisions and Floyd coming in two pounds over the contracted weight limit doesn't affect the Marquez win in your book?

The Cotto who fought Pac was drained and washed up after Margarito but he was every bit as good against Floyd...

Corrales is not a Hall-of-Famer and either is Gatti..and even bringing up Judah in the Hall of Fame is pretty much a joke...

DLH and Mosley were washed up by the time they fought Floyd come on..

You're reaching with this post...

Floyd's win vs. JMM has grown over time due to JMM's performances vs. Pacquiao at WW. The catchweight and Mayweather coming in overweight do take away from the victory somewhat. I rate Pacquiao's victory and performance vs. Cotto very highly. The catchweight does take away from the victory somewhat. Both are great victories for each man though.

Gatti is a HOFer, already. Corrales deserves it, a great and exciting fighter. I don't think Judah has much of a chance, but he has built a resume. Mosley sure looked shot after Floyd, but he was coming off the best performance of his career IMO before fighting Floyd.

I rate Pacquiao's resume slightly higher than Floyd's, but both have top notch resumes.

[MisanthropicNY]

The crazy thing is if Floyd was in Leonard's era the only guys he would have fought would have been Chavez Sr and then maybe Duran after Hearns KOed him...

Floyd would have avoided Sugar Ray and Hearns... And I don't even have to mention that he would have avoided Hagler..

[IronDanHamza]

Hahahaha. Floyd is a great fighter. People need to get over it and move on. He didn't beat any prime HOFers? How the hell do you even know that already?

I always see "He hasn't beaten a legit HOF'er in their prime"

What the hell is a "legit HOF'er"

[MisanthropicNY]

Floyd's win vs. JMM has grown over time due to JMM's performances vs. Pacquiao at WW. The catchweight and Mayweather coming in overweight do take away from the victory somewhat. I rate Pacquiao's victory and performance vs. Cotto very highly. The catchweight does take away from the victory somewhat. Both are great victories for each man though.

Gatti is a HOFer, already. Corrales deserves it, a great and exciting fighter. I don't think Judah has much of a chance, but he has built a resume. Mosley sure looked shot after Floyd, but he was coming off the best performance of his career IMO before fighting Floyd.

I rate Pacquiao's resume slightly higher than Floyd's, but both have top notch resumes.

So in other words, after Marquez hooked up with Memo, Marquez's stock has grown...

I've actually analyzed Marquez's physique when he fought Floyd and his physique in Pac 3 and 4... What a transformation in each of those fights LOL...

I mean Marquez in that 4th Pacquiao fight should be a Halloween Costume... I'm going to be Marquez in Marquez-Pac 4 for Halloween..

[The Big Dunn]

top ten p4p (ranked #3 in their second fight), prime, undefeated, former unified 140 champ slick high IQ bradley >>>> guerrero, ortiz, maidana, past prime coming off over 1 year absence mosley, bloated first fight at 147 no s&c coach/steroid scientist cheated on scales marquez, zab judah, way past prime punching bag gatti, baldomir etc.

prime 126 lineal champ p4p#3 mexican legend barrera >>>> corrales, castillo genaro hernandez

Over rating manny's wins while not factoring in his losses is what you and others do daily here on NSB. That's not what the ring voters did.