Top 20 Fighters Since World War II

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    #51
    Originally posted by Pigeons
    I think it has something to do with this...
    a KO loss in a fight you were winning means you're not a Top 20 fighter anymore? Alright then remove Ali..

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    • Joe Beamish
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      #52
      Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
      a KO loss in a fight you were winning means you're not a Top 20 fighter anymore? Alright then remove Ali..
      Ali never had a KO loss in a fight he was winning. He did get a TKO against Holmes when he was totally washed up, but....

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      • Trixly
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        #53
        Top 20 Fighters Since WWII

        Some of these boxers were in their primes before WWII and were already on the decline after WWII.

        I would have included Foreman, Frazier, Lomatta, Lennox Lewis, Basillio, Tyson, Hearns and Pacquiao.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #54
          Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
          a KO loss in a fight you were winning means you're not a Top 20 fighter anymore? Alright then remove Ali..
          When was he ever that high?

          It's ok to love manny but don't ask everyone to have the same warped view of his place in history as you do.

          I mean is being ranked 26th (tied with holyfield) that bad? I think it's damn good.

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          • DeadLikeMe
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            #55
            You'd think this would garner more attention.

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            • daggum
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              #56
              great list but no cuenca, margarito, calzaghe, or ottke hmmmm and pac and floyd fought in the same era but pac has a much better resume and floyd is known for ducking the dangerous fights yet floyd is above him...

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              • crold1
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                #57
                The 20 I offered for the list:

                1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                2. Ezzard Charles
                3. Henry Armstrong
                4. Roberto Duran
                5. Muhammad Ali
                6. Archie Moore
                7. Sugar Ray Leonard
                8. Willie Pep
                9. Pernell Whitaker
                10. Joe Louis
                11. Roy Jones Jr.
                12. Carlos Monzon
                13. Bernard Hopkins
                14. Manny Pacquiao
                15. Julio Cesar Chavez
                16. Miguel Canto
                17. Eder Jofre
                18. Marvin Hagler
                19. Floyd Mayweather
                20. Carlos Ortiz

                In retrospect, I probably whiffed not including Gavilan and Williams. Lot of great fighters.

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                • Pigeons
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  great list but no cuenca, margarito, calzaghe, or ottke hmmmm and pac and floyd fought in the same era but pac has a much better resume and floyd is known for ducking the dangerous fights yet floyd is above him...
                  Probably has something to do with the fact that Pacquiao has been knocked out 3 times and lost another legitimate decision on top of that. Add in 3 questionable decisions vs. Marquez.

                  Mayweather has one questionable decision in 47 fights. 22-0 vs. current/former world champions. Pacquiao is 19-4-2.

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                  • GrandpaBernard
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                    #59
                    thanks for sharing this with us

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      great list but no cuenca, margarito, calzaghe, or ottke hmmmm and pac and floyd fought in the same era but pac has a much better resume and floyd is known for ducking the dangerous fights yet floyd is above him...
                      Historians and journalists are obligated to vote with some integrity-they know manny refused the fight twice.

                      They aren't going to use convoluted, ******ed NSB logic when putting together their list. Besides, dougie Fischer voted. He surely used some dumb ass reasoning like you suggested here.

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