Top 20 Fighters Since World War II

[Humean]

True but does the wins , one after jofre's comeback from injury (or was it retirement), mean he deserves to be on this list? I admit, I don't know much about Harada's whole career, and kudos to you for mentioning this, but to invalidate the list based solely on one fight.

I'm not invalidating the list based solely on one fight.

There is little reason that I know of to downgrade Harada's two wins over Jofre other than thinking maybe Jofre deserved the decision in one or both fights, they were both very close affairs.

[Humean]

There are greater foreign fighters than Harada that didn't make the list. For instance Alexis Arguello or even Wilfred Benitez. Honestly Harada is a fringe name at best. His wins over Jofre are similar to Marquez' wins over Pacquiao.

Harada is a 'fringe name'? What is that even supposed to mean? If Willie Pep hadn't dropped the ball as ref then Harada would have been the first three weight world champion since Henry Armstrong. Does 'fringe name' mean 'Japanese name'?

[Kagami Taiga]

Harada is a 'fringe name'? What is that even supposed to mean? If Willie Pep hadn't dropped the ball as ref then Harada would have been the first three weight world champion since Henry Armstrong. Does 'fringe name' mean 'Japanese name'?

Meaning he's a fringe name on the list. I'm not questioning his greatness. What I am saying is there are greater fighters that deserve to go before him.

[Humean]

Meaning he's a fringe name on the list. I'm not questioning his greatness. What I am saying is there are greater fighters that deserve to go before him.

Perhaps but I wanted to give an example from the lower weights who wasn't from North or South America. I could have said Pacquiao but that would be n obvious example and he did get votes unlike Harada. Looking at some of the fighters who received votes and yet nobody gave him one is certainly revealing. 49 fighters got votes, only one from Asia and 2 from Europe. A lot of heavyweights and light-heavies.

[DeadLikeMe]

I can only imagine what NSB's list would look like

[Cleto_Reyes]

I can only imagine what NSB's list would look like

it would look something like
1.floyd
2.Pacquiao
3.Rigondeaux
4.Hopkins
5.Royjones jr.
6.GGG
7.Klitschko
8.Tyson
9.Marquez
10.Swift Garcia

[DeadLikeMe]

it would look something like
1.floyd
2.Pacquiao
3.Rigondeaux
4.Hopkins
5.Royjones jr.
6.GGG
7.Klitschko
8.Tyson
9.Marquez
10.Swift Garcia

No Margarito? He'd be like 3rd or 4th I'd think

[Showtime..]

Not having Pacquiao in the Top 20 but having Floyd is Criminal. I'll pass with Floyd being higher, but honestly wtf...

[Pigeons]

Not having Pacquiao in the Top 20 but having Floyd is Criminal. I'll pass with Floyd being higher, but honestly wtf...

I think it has something to do with this...

[Joe Beamish]

I can respect that.

But the Hagler, Hearns and Benitez losses, combined with the fact that he lost to SRL when he used more footwork and the fact that none of his lightweight competition never really stepped up the plate to accomplish anything spectacular puts him lower than SRL for me anyway.

I can't say anything against SRL.

I think Duran's incredible ability to return to the top from huge setbacks puts him up there close to Ali, who did much the same. The fact that he jumped from LW to WW to be the only guy to defeat an absolutely prime SRL is not diminished for me by the first rematch....any more than Ali's losses diminished his legacy for me.