If Floyd Mayweater fought in my time he would be just another fighter

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  • Luilun
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    #31
    Originally posted by slipcatchroll
    Broken arm in the 1st fight and the 2nd fight was pretty much a shutout.
    Jesus Chavez didn't outbox Floyd he got off random rights and jabs which landed similar to Maidana and got KTFO simple as. It was a pretty easy fight in retrospect.

    But as for a match-up between those two I don't see how Duran can outbox Floyd in anyway given what I've seen of him.
    First of all to all these dumba$$es who believe Floyds excuse on torn rotator cuff tear it was all an excuse a torn rotator cuff is only fixed by surgery you ******s if you had a tear and kept training I can guarantee you that arm would be worthless after 1 year. Where does Floyd have scars from a surgery if he had surgery he would have been crying to Leaderman that he's having surgery. Floyd Lost the first Castillo fight 8 rounds to 4 he barley won the second 7 to 5 but it should have been awarded to Castillo for the previous robbery

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    • slipcatchroll
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      #32
      Originally posted by Luilun
      Wasn't Ray Leonard like 45 years old ? he did knock Floyd Sr though
      Floyd Sr said his hand was hurt and if you look at the first few rounds you can see that he was outboxing him man vs boy style. I'm going under these assumptions and plus they're different fighters.

      Ray Leonard was 39 I believe around the same age Floyd is when he fought Maidana and 13 pounds above his natural weight class which would make Floyd 143. Do you really think Floyd would lose to camacho at 143 pounds?

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      • CatchAndShoot
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        #33
        Originally posted by slipcatchroll
        No if you look through you lazy bum you'll realize I corrected James and said it wouldn't be an easy fight for Floyd at 135 but he's still the favourite IMO because I see weaknesses that Floyd could capitalize on. Floyd never KOs Duran, even at lightweight where he wasn't so feather.

        I've seen the fight and last time I remember it was a shutout.
        My bad. Why you gotta be so hostile?

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        • Joe Beamish
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          #34
          Originally posted by slipcatchroll
          Duran said Floyd was the sole reason that the Pacquiao fight wasn't happening, trust me if you do enough research you'll realize that Duran is one if the biggest Floyd haters.

          Pacquiao is not an outstanding fighter he was on steroids if everyone was on what he was on well................ we all saw what happened in the 4th fight ( I'm already fully red k'd up I don't care).
          And you're contradicting yourself even if Floyd beat Pacquiao he'd never, according to your logic, beaten a fighter like Leonard or Duran so how could you even compare them.

          Oscar and Mosley would never beat Floyd those fights clearly show that they were outboxed. Oscar wasn't past prime and Mosley was good enough to compete with him.
          Where to begin?

          I don't personally believe that Oscar or Mosley were in Leonard/Duran's class, either. Just saying that both those guys were way, way past their prime when Floyd beat them. I would give Floyd a great chance against both of those guys. Not so much against Duran, Leonard, Benitez, Hearns at 147, and not so much against Arguello or Pryor at 140.

          Many people (journalists, boxers, and of course Floyd himself) often say that Floyd is the best ever -- or he MIGHT be the best ever, so naturally in interviews guys like Duran get asked if they agree.

          Duran has a huge ego -- so does Leonard, and naturally they might express their feeling that in an actual fight, they might beat Floyd back in the day. This isn't about hating or disrespect.

          People will always say Floyd was a great fighter, but they'll always mention Pacquaio in the next breath. They'll always say, "yeah, but he didn't fight Pacquaio."

          Can't say that about the old guys. They fought each other.

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          • slipcatchroll
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            #35
            Originally posted by Luilun
            First of all to all these dumba$$es who believe Floyds excuse on torn rotator cuff tear it was all an excuse a torn rotator cuff is only fixed by surgery you ******s if you had a tear and kept training I can guarantee you that arm would be worthless after 1 year. Where does Floyd have scars from a surgery if he had surgery he would have been crying to Leaderman that he's having surgery. Floyd Lost the first Castillo fight 8 rounds to 4 he barley won the second 7 to 5 but it should have been awarded to Castillo for the previous robbery
            Yet he switched to southpaw several times in the fight and repeatedly said my hand/arm is hurting. I don't know if it was a torn rotator cuff but he wasn't performing how he normally does and so I go under the assumption he was telling the truth.

            I'm not going to argue with you about the scoring because it would simply be pointless I'll just leave it at black power and TBE.

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            • slipcatchroll
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              #36
              Originally posted by Joe Beamish
              Where to begin?

              I don't personally believe that Oscar or Mosley were in Leonard/Duran's class, either. Just saying that both those guys were way, way past their prime when Floyd beat them. I would give Floyd a great chance against both of those guys. Not so much against Duran, Leonard, Benitez, Hearns at 147, and not so much against Arguello or Pryor at 140.

              Many people (journalists, boxers, and of course Floyd himself) often say that Floyd is the best ever -- or he MIGHT be the best ever, so naturally in interviews guys like Duran get asked if they agree.

              Duran has a huge ego -- so does Leonard, and naturally they might express their feeling that in an actual fight, they might beat Floyd back in the day. This isn't about hating or disrespect.

              People will always say Floyd was a great fighter, but they'll always mention Pacquaio in the next breath. They'll always say, "yeah, but he didn't fight Pacquaio."

              Can't say that about the old guys. They fought each other.
              We can't say what would've happened in those match-ups because our boxing experience is very limited seeing as we haven't actually gone on to win any championships ourselves and that's why I said IMO Floyd would be the favorite against all of them except Hearns because of height and power.

              But yeah I believe p4p in their prime weights Oscar, Leonard and Mosley are in the same class with SRL slightly leading the pack. Duran slightly above them, all opinion of course.

              Pacquiao was on steroids.

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              • slipcatchroll
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                #37
                Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
                My bad. Why you gotta be so hostile?
                I apologize but you did call me a lazy bum.

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                  #38
                  He just wouldnt cut it, it really is that simple.

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                  • davidandrei
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                    #39
                    I think Mayweather gimped himself. He's so particular with who he fights and negotiations and that you cant really tell if he completely outclassed the guy or just got boosted by some advantages. I think he wins versus many simply because he is pretty damn good now and hes not even truely tested. at least not lately.

                    tldr, he cherry picks. if he fought a legit threat, he will rise to the occasion. all atgs do.

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                    • richardt
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by big_james10
                      If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him.
                      Log off, you have lost all credibility. Your entire imaged wiped out with one sentence.

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