If Floyd Mayweater fought in my time he would be just another fighter

[Beercules]

Floyd would


Floyd would have Gerry Curls

Retire while Duran, Hearns, and SRL fight eachother.

Floyd will have his cousin yelling The freshest ever instead of TBE

Duran with have Hearns Problem

Hearns will have SRL Problems

SRL has Duran problems

Hagler too big and Just trying to get Paid

Kool Mo dee would swoop up MS. Jackson instead of nelly.......



There, summarized floyds career 80's style.

[CatchAndShoot]

Floyd mayweather is not Ray Leonard not hearns not hagler. He's sweet pea 2.0 exact same fighter just cherry picks better.

Pernell can box on the inside without clinching every time you come near him.

[big_james10]

Duran said something to that effect..But does that mean Floyd would be the same fighter he is today..I mean would he do everything then he does now..Or would he be better then now cause of the better competition developing his boxing skills to finer degrees..Or is he at a limit now that can't be improved regardless of who his opponents were..
Looking back would we see him as the greatest thing since SRR or would we see him like his dad ..Good fighter but against the elites always on the losing end..Educate me folks what would be different in his game..or would he have less game and why

This entire argument is totally useless. Duran, all the haters on this site, and everyone else who compares Mayweather to fighters of yesteryear all do the same thing that makes their comparison completely baseless. They compare Mayweather as he is now -- 37 years old and fading in a division that is three divisions above where he started -- to the greats of yesteryear in their primes in their best weight division.

That idiot, Teddy Atlas, did the same thing Saturday night when he said he difference between Sugar Ray Leonard and Mayweather is that SRL would have KO'd Maidana. Sure, SRL in his prime at age 25 at his starting professional weight of 147 pounds would have KO'd Maidana. However, at 37, SRL was retired. He fought his last two fights at age 31 (a loss to Terry Norris on points) and at age 39 (a KO loss to Hector Camacho). If SRL had fought Maidana at the age of 37 (like Mayweather did), SRL would have definitely lost and likely been KO'd himself.

Mayweather's best weight was 130. In his 20s, at 130 and 135, Mayweather KO'd 80 to 85 percent of his opponents and only one fighter, Jose Luis Castille, was even able to give Mayweather a competitive fight at those weights. Shane Mosley was so afraid of Mayweather that he turned down an offer to fight Mayweather at 135 by demanding a $10 million purse to make the fight.

If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him. Comparing him to SRL or Thomas Hearns is baseless because both these fighters started their careers at 147 while Mayweather moved up to 147 and didn't carry his power with him. And to make it worse, the clowns who do this compare the 36 and 37-year old Mayweather to the 25-26 year old SRL and Thomas Hearns and make ridiculous statements about how Mayweather is not as good.

You are damn right Mayweather is not as good at 147 as SRL and Hearns were. That is because Mayweather started at 130 and moved up. SRL and Thomas Hearns at 147, but both fought at 168 and 175 at one point in their careers. No one is comparing them to Andre Ward and Roy Jones, who started their careers at those respective weights.

This entire argument is idiotic and baseless. Unfortunately, I have seen it on this message board at least 100 times and will see it another 100 times before Mayweather retires.

[CatchAndShoot]

If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him.

Wait, wait, wait, the same Floyd that lost to JLC in the first fight, and the same one that had a decently close fight with JLC in the 2nd fight would easily beat, and KO Duran at 135?

The same Floyd that was getting a bit troubled by Jesus Chavez, and his pressure style? He won the fight, but didn't look like a boxing God by any means in that fight.

[slipcatchroll]

This entire argument is totally useless. Duran, all the haters on this site, and everyone else who compares Mayweather to fighters of yesteryear all do the same thing that makes their comparison completely baseless. They compare Mayweather as he is now -- 37 years old and fading in a division that is three divisions above where he started -- to the greats of yesteryear in their primes in their best weight division.

That idiot, Teddy Atlas, did the same thing Saturday night when he said he difference between Sugar Ray Leonard and Mayweather is that SRL would have KO'd Maidana. Sure, SRL in his prime at age 25 at his starting professional weight of 147 pounds would have KO'd Maidana. However, at 37, SRL was retired. He fought his last two fights at age 31 (a loss to Terry Norris on points) and at age 39 (a KO loss to Hector Camacho). If SRL had fought Maidana at the age of 37 (like Mayweather did), SRL would have definitely lost and likely been KO'd himself.

Mayweather's best weight was 130. In his 20s, at 130 and 135, Mayweather KO'd 80 to 85 percent of his opponents and only one fighter, Jose Luis Castille, was even able to give Mayweather a competitive fight at those weights. Shane Mosley was so afraid of Mayweather that he turned down an offer to fight Mayweather at 135 by demanding a $10 million purse to make the fight.

If Mayweather, in his prime at 135, had fought Duran in his prime at 135, Mayweather would have beaten him easily and very likely would have KO'd him. Comparing him to SRL or Thomas Hearns is baseless because both these fighters started their careers at 147 while Mayweather moved up to 147 and didn't carry his power with him. And to make it worse, the clowns who do this compare the 36 and 37-year old Mayweather to the 25-26 year old SRL and Thomas Hearns and make ridiculous statements about how Mayweather is not as good.

You are damn right Mayweather is not as good at 147 as SRL and Hearns were. That is because Mayweather started at 130 and moved up. SRL and Thomas Hearns at 147, but both fought at 168 and 175 at one point in their careers. No one is comparing them to Andre Ward and Roy Jones, who started their careers at those respective weights.

This entire argument is idiotic and baseless. Unfortunately, I have seen it on this message board at least 100 times and will see it another 100 times before Mayweather retires.

Be easy *****. I believe Mayweather beats all of them at any weight except Hearns but to say Duran at Lightweight is an easy fight is plain ****** the guy was an animal at 135 ........... nothing more nothing less. TBE still claps him doe.

[slipcatchroll]

Wait, wait, wait, the same Floyd that lost to JLC in the first fight, and the same one that had a decently close fight with JLC in the 2nd fight would easily beat, and KO Duran at 135?

The same Floyd that was getting a bit troubled by Jesus Chavez, and his pressure style? He won the fight, but didn't look like a boxing God by any means in that fight.

Broken arm in the 1st fight and the 2nd fight was pretty much a shutout.
Jesus Chavez didn't outbox Floyd he got off random rights and jabs which landed similar to Maidana and got KTFO simple as. It was a pretty easy fight in retrospect.

But as for a match-up between those two I don't see how Duran can outbox Floyd in anyway given what I've seen of him.

[CatchAndShoot]

Broken arm in the 1st fight and the 2nd fight was pretty much a shutout.
Jesus Chavez didn't outbox Floyd he got off random rights and jabs which landed similar to Maidana and got KTFO simple as. It was a pretty easy fight in retrospect.

But as for a match-up between those two I don't see how Duran can outbox Floyd in anyway given what I've seen of him.

Rotater cuff injury, and the 2nd fight wasn't a shut out, if you've actually watched it. It wasn't a Floyd/Corrales. JLC still got to him. The point about Jesus Chavez wasn't that it was a super competitive fight, it's that Jesus Chavez is a bonafide scrub compared to Duran, and he troubled Floyd in spots, but couldn't sustain it, because he doesn't have the skill of Duran, the stamina,the speed, the power, durability/chin, or the mentality to beat Floyd.

Duran has all that.

[Francis M.]

We would be blaming all these fighters on why they don't bend over to Floyd's demands.

[radioraheem]

Duran said something to that effect..But does that mean Floyd would be the same fighter he is today..I mean would he do everything then he does now..Or would he be better then now cause of the better competition developing his boxing skills to finer degrees..Or is he at a limit now that can't be improved regardless of who his opponents were..
Looking back would we see him as the greatest thing since SRR or would we see him like his dad ..Good fighter but against the elites always on the losing end..Educate me folks what would be different in his game..or would he have less game and why

Duran felt that in his era the competition was significantly better. I remember him saying that Floyd is so good in this era because most of the fighters today suck. He said that Floyd is just so much better than them. But that in his era, Floyd would just be another fighter.

So he was really speaking about the difference in competition between today and back then. Ray Leonard also said similar things. Like he feels Floyd is one of the few fighters today that could compete in his era.

[Joe Beamish]

Duran said something to that effect..But does that mean Floyd would be the same fighter he is today..I mean would he do everything then he does now..Or would he be better then now cause of the better competition developing his boxing skills to finer degrees..Or is he at a limit now that can't be improved regardless of who his opponents were..
Looking back would we see him as the greatest thing since SRR or would we see him like his dad ..Good fighter but against the elites always on the losing end..Educate me folks what would be different in his game..or would he have less game and why

I remember this quote from Duran. I took it to mean that Floyd would have been in the same class as SRL, Hearns, Duran, maybe Benitez. He wouldn't have stood out as the only great fighter as he does now.

Floyd is fab, but let's be clear. He never beat anyone of Duran's caliber, or Leonard's, or Hearns' -- or Arguello or Pryor at 140. He beat a washed up Oscar and Mosely and for whatever reason never faced the other outstanding fighter of his own time, Pacquiao.

To those who think Cotto or Maidana are as good as Duran, I have nothing to say to you. And there's never been an opponent resembling Leonard on Floyd's resume, so it's hard to say whether Floyd could have handled a guy like that.

Duran clearly respects Floyd and was pointing out that, back in the day, he wouldn't have been the only great fighter around 147 or so. Today, he is.