If Floyd Mayweater fought in my time he would be just another fighter

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Duran said this specifically:

"The problem right now is that Mayweather is fighting in an era where there are no real boxers. We knew that kind of style, we were familar with it. We were used to fighting those kind of boxers," Duran stated.

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Rotater cuff injury, and the 2nd fight wasn't a shut out, if you've actually watched it. It wasn't a Floyd/Corrales. JLC still got to him. The point about Jesus Chavez wasn't that it was a super competitive fight, it's that Jesus Chavez is a bonafide scrub compared to Duran, and he troubled Floyd in spots, but couldn't sustain it, because he doesn't have the skill of Duran, the stamina,the speed, the power, durability/chin, or the mentality to beat Floyd.

Duran has all that.

OK so now that we've cleared up the issue with the first fight which you initially used to try and attack Floyd's credibility at least we know what kind of agenda you have.

Now tell me the rounds in the second fight that Castillo won and I'll look through it again.

Since you probably won't answer the second point I'll just assume you argue with some second rate logic and so I'll play along and say that this is the same guy who quit against a mover blah blah blah blah flat footed blah blah blah. Your turn.

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Duran said this specifically:

"The problem right now is that Mayweather is fighting in an era where there are no real boxers. We knew that kind of style, we were familar with it. We were used to fighting those kind of boxers," Duran stated.

Shane Mosley, Oscar De La Hoya, Lamont Peterson. None of them are as smart as Duran, I think, but they can sure as hell box and have other traits that make up for it.

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Duran felt that in his era the competition was significantly better. I remember him saying that Floyd is so good in this era because most of the fighters today suck. He said that Floyd is just so much better than them. But that in his era, Floyd would just be another fighter.

So he was really speaking about the difference in competition between today and back then. Ray Leonard also said similar things. Like he feels Floyd is one of the few fighters today that could compete in his era.

Ray Leonard lost against Camacho. He has a point. But still.

[Luilun]

Duran said something to that effect..But does that mean Floyd would be the same fighter he is today..I mean would he do everything then he does now..Or would he be better then now cause of the better competition developing his boxing skills to finer degrees..Or is he at a limit now that can't be improved regardless of who his opponents were..
Looking back would we see him as the greatest thing since SRR or would we see him like his dad ..Good fighter but against the elites always on the losing end..Educate me folks what would be different in his game..or would he have less game and why

If He fought Ray Leonard he would get knocked out just like his dad did , I doubt he would have ever fought at Welter he would have spent his time avoiding Arron Pryor at 140 like he does Pacquaio today. Alexis Arguello would have put a hurting on him so would have Ray Boom Boom Maniciani these are no Ricky Hattons Face first no skill fighters

[CatchAndShoot]

OK so now that we've cleared up the issue with the first fight which you initially used to try and attack Floyd's credibility at least we know what kind of agenda you have.

Now tell me the rounds in the second fight that Castillo won and I'll look through it again.

Since you probably won't answer the second point I'll just assume you argue with some second rate logic and so I'll play along and say that this is the same guy who quit against a mover blah blah blah blah flat footed blah blah blah. Your turn.

Agenda? Didn't you just say he easily out boxes Duran, and KO's him?

Why don't you actually watch the fight, and find out. Something you don't do. I'm not gonna sit here, and re watch a fight for you, just to give you the exact rounds he won. Ya lazy bum.

[Luilun]

Ray Leonard lost against Camacho. He has a point. But still.

Wasn't Ray Leonard like 45 years old ? he did knock Floyd Sr though

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I think in the eras before reality shows/TMZ/rapper beefs, etc., Floyd would have a very difficult time generating the kind of revenue he does. And without the revenue he wouldn't be able to "customize" all of his fights.

He would have eventually just had some manager/promoter grab him by the collar and say he's gonna fight so and so and if he doesn't like it tough, and taken some losses.

People used to care what you did IN the ring but with Floyd, you get a bunch of whacky personal stories and his fights have literally put me to sleep. He relies heavily on viral media to keep his name out there.

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I remember this quote from Duran. I took it to mean that Floyd would have been in the same class as SRL, Hearns, Duran, maybe Benitez. He wouldn't have stood out as the only great fighter as he does now.

Floyd is fab, but let's be clear. He never beat anyone of Duran's caliber, or Leonard's, or Hearns' -- or Arguello or Pryor at 140. He beat a washed up Oscar and Mosely and for whatever reason never faced the other outstanding fighter of his own time, Pacquiao.

To those who think Cotto or Maidana are as good as Duran, I have nothing to say to you. And there's never been an opponent resembling Leonard on Floyd's resume, so it's hard to say whether Floyd could have handled a guy like that.

Duran clearly respects Floyd and was pointing out that, back in the day, he wouldn't have been the only great fighter around 147 or so. Today, he is.

Duran said Floyd was the sole reason that the Pacquiao fight wasn't happening, trust me if you do enough research you'll realize that Duran is one if the biggest Floyd haters.

Pacquiao is not an outstanding fighter he was on steroids if everyone was on what he was on well................ we all saw what happened in the 4th fight ( I'm already fully red k'd up I don't care).
And you're contradicting yourself even if Floyd beat Pacquiao he'd never, according to your logic, beaten a fighter like Leonard or Duran so how could you even compare them.

Oscar and Mosley would never beat Floyd those fights clearly show that they were outboxed. Oscar wasn't past prime and Mosley was good enough to compete with him.

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Agenda? Didn't you just say he easily out boxes Duran, and KO's him?

Why don't you actually watch the fight, and find out. Something you don't do. I'm not gonna sit here, and re watch a fight for you, just to give you the exact rounds he won. Ya lazy bum.

No if you look through you lazy bum you'll realize I corrected James and said it wouldn't be an easy fight for Floyd at 135 but he's still the favourite IMO because I see weaknesses that Floyd could capitalize on. Floyd never KOs Duran, even at lightweight where he wasn't so feather.

I've seen the fight and last time I remember it was a shutout.