P4P Irrelevance

[Jsmooth9876]

Floyd beat shane when shane was ranked #1 everywhere except Ring. So why you make some good points overall about p4p, to say he specifically hasn't defeated the best in the division is not accurate.

And he beat the "lineal " champ in Baldomir as well lol....

[soul_survivor]

And he beat the "lineal " champ in Baldomir as well lol....

hahahaha Baldomir, one of the greats!

[Kagami Taiga]

Wow, how did Shane hold onto that #1 spot being inactive for 17 months at 38 years old lol.

Because he beat margarito and the reason he was inactive was because no1 wanted to fight him. That includes Pacquiao.

[soul_survivor]

Because he beat margarito and the reason he was inactive was because no1 wanted to fight him. That includes Pacquiao.

lol no it doesn't, he was signed on to fight Berto but than the Haitian disaster happened and Berto had to pull out and then, some time later the Floyd fight was signed.

And the Margy win was an isolated incidence, just before that, Mosley was soundly out boxed by Mayorga...of all people lol And he was on a losing streak at the highest level, losing against Cotto. His most credible win in some time was against a damn beat up Vargas.

[Larry the boss]

How can Floyd claim to be the best in his division? He is the lineal champion, unified champion, undefeated and wasn't recently knocked out by a blown up featherweight

[soul_survivor]

How can Floyd claim to be the best in his division? He is the lineal champion, unified champion, undefeated and wasn't recently knocked out by a blown up featherweight

Floyd retired...Manny moved up to welterweight and carved out a spot for him self as the best, Floyd returned and everyone clearly said the two best fighters in the division and "p4p" were Floyd and Manny and that fight hasn't materialised. I won't go into whose fault that is but as I've said, Floyd can't even be numero uno in his division by facing the other top guy of his era, how does he claim to be p4p no. 1? A spot he earned by default anyway lool

But this is a bigger argument than Floyd/Pac...I mentioned Ward and some other people in this thread too, so let's move on.

[Jsmooth9876]

How can Floyd claim to be the best in his division? He is the lineal champion, unified champion, undefeated and wasn't recently knocked out by a blown up featherweight

But Floyd die hards always point to how soundly he beat up on that blown up featherweight himself after cheating him on the scales..go figure ha....

[Foreign Soil]

Been saying it for a while... whenever the Ring rated Broner #6 P4P that completely ended my interest in P4P for good. Nothing but an agenda laden list no matter how you look at it.

People would rather have their favorites win in fantasy P4P matchups than to actually get in the ring and face their P4P foes, even going so far as defending a duck as bidness. That says about all you need to know about P4P lists.

[soul_survivor]

Been saying it for a while... whenever the Ring rated Broner #6 P4P that completely ended my interest in P4P for good. Nothing but an agenda laden list no matter how you look at it.

People would rather have their favorites win in fantasy P4P matchups than to actually get in the ring and face their P4P foes, even going so far as defending a duck as bidness. That says about all you need to know about P4P lists.

I totally agree, ranking Canelo and Broner and I think at one stage Maidana too, just before they fight Mayweather just stank of corruption.

[Kagami Taiga]

lol no it doesn't, he was signed on to fight Berto but than the Haitian disaster happened and Berto had to pull out and then, some time later the Floyd fight was signed.

And the Margy win was an isolated incidence, just before that, Mosley was soundly out boxed by Mayorga...of all people lol And he was on a losing streak at the highest level, losing against Cotto. His most credible win in some time was against a damn beat up Vargas.

Wtf are u on about? Margarito was the #1 ww. Shane beat his ass, which made him the #1 ww. Shane beat Mayorga and the only person he lost to in 2 years was Cotto in a fight that could have went either way. Shane spent a year looking for someone to fight him until he got the berto fight. That's a fact. Berto pulled out and Floyd took the chance to fight him when the Pac fight fell apart.But Shane was the #1 fighter in the division at that time. Don't create storylines. Smh losing streak.