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  • New England
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    #51
    i'd probably bump floyd back to #1. i had brought him down after the first maidana fight.



    the three best fighters in boxing are also the three with the best boxing skills.

    floyd
    ridondeaux
    ward

    i'll drop ward when he goes a year without a fight. it's a shame that his career has been so badly stalled with his promotional issues.

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    • crold1
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      #52
      Originally posted by New England
      i'd probably bump floyd back to #1. i had brought him down after the first maidana fight.



      the three best fighters in boxing are also the three with the best boxing skills.

      floyd
      ridondeaux
      ward

      i'll drop ward when he goes a year without a fight. it's a shame that his career has been so badly stalled with his promotional issues.
      I think Gonzalez is just as skilled. Different skill set. There is my a better combination puncher or pressure fighter in the game.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #53
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        I agree but he isn't p4p the second best guy on the planet. His power makes him exciting and I'm a fan but he isn't very good defensively, gets hit a lot and although he may warrant a place at 10 or possibly slightly outside the top 10, to have him at 2 is crazy, above guys like Rigo, Pac, Wlad, Froch...



        Klit deserves a top 5 ranking, come on now
        Gonzalez doesn't get hit a lot. Especially not for the weight classes he has fought at, where everyone gets hit a lot. Gonzalez's defense is pretty freaking good.

        I can't imagine how he's just barely top 10, but Wlad or Froch belong for sure. Gonzalez is clearly better than both.

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        • fundicao
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          #54
          **** that list!!! where's Marcos "the dentist" Maidana ? why is bradley and not chino?

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          • v.cassiusali@ya
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            #55
            gonzales should have been there long ago...bradley??? ward???...loooooooooollllllll!

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #56
              Originally posted by crold1
              My thinking always starts with best fighters in beat divisions. Better comp counts more. Nothing against Wlad. Great Heavyweight. I don't think his skill set translates well into other classes.
              That's excellent reasoning and I agree completely.

              That's what P4P means to me when you boil it down: the best fighters, in the best divisions, with the best skill set. Which still leaves a lot of room for debate and discussion.
              Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 09-15-2014, 08:00 PM.

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              • -PBP-
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                #57
                Originally posted by fundicao
                **** that list!!! where's Marcos "the dentist" Maidana ? why is bradley and not chino?

                These Maidana fan boys are really THE NUMBER ONE most delusional fan base in the history of sports. My GAWD!!!!

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  I agree but he isn't p4p the second best guy on the planet. His power makes him exciting and I'm a fan but he isn't very good defensively, gets hit a lot and although he may warrant a place at 10 or possibly slightly outside the top 10, to have him at 2 is crazy, above guys like Rigo, Pac, Wlad, Froch...
                  His defense is better than it looks at first glance, he does subtle moves that take the sting off of punches when he gets hit. Anyway I don't think you should look at just one aspect (defense), you should evaluate the whole package.

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                  • crold1
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Light_Speed
                    His defense is better than it looks at first glance, he does subtle moves that take the sting off of punches when he gets hit. Anyway I don't think you should look at just one aspect (defense), you should evaluate the whole package.
                    He also picks off shots well. There was some nice elbow defense when Yaegashi went low.

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                      #60
                      HELL NO!! the flyweight division is pretty much rock em sock em robots, they trying to hype up the Estrada and Gonzalez fight? Both of them do not have a much more dominant skill artillery than Klitschko, Rigondeaux, Ward, Hopkins, or Mayweather. These list are getting disrespectful by putting these guys above them.

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