The top 2 Flyweights made the list, awesome. Finally, some well deserved recognition for the smaller weights. Gonzalez is definitely above Estrada on the P4P rankings. So beautiful to see them on the list... thanks BoxingScene.
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Cliff I don't usually complain about your p4p list. I am also a known hater of wladimir. WLad is old and his fights are not enjoyable to me. So I write this painfully but honestly-he has to be in the top 5 p4p, maybe even as high as #2 since ward is out, rigo has had 14 pro fights and Manny is 2 fights removed form being KTFO.
I agreed with your assessment of the HWT division when you wrote about all divisions. I get his comp level is atrocious. But he can't be blamed for that. I also agree Gonzalez is not nearly as respected as he should be.
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First off, I think the P4P list is trickier to put together these days than it was a couple of years ago. Most will agree that Floyd, Ward, Rigo, and Pac are at or near the top, but after that it's very open.
It's good to see Gonzalez on the list, but to me No.2 seems too high. I think Wlad needs to be on it too, but some people don't put heavyweights on their P4P list which is a different pov I suppose. On the face of it, having Estrada ahead of him makes no sense whatsoever to me. Also a bit strange that Canelo isn't even mentioned.
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rigondeaux, ward over pac? didn't pac beat bradley when he ws p4p #3?
i dunno who the *** the roman guy is, i assume he's some beast to be p4p #2
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Not a very good list surprisingly. I usually like cliffs stuff. But Gonzalez is too high. Estrada doesn't belong at all. Vlad should probably be higher. Wouldn't mind if ward was gone.
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Originally posted by Dr Rumack View PostFirst off, I think the P4P list is trickier to put together these days than it was a couple of years ago. Most will agree that Floyd, Ward, Rigo, and Pac are at or near the top, but after that it's very open.
It's good to see Gonzalez on the list, but to me No.2 seems too high. I think Wlad needs to be on it too, but some people don't put heavyweights on their P4P list which is a different pov I suppose. On the face of it, having Estrada ahead of him makes no sense whatsoever to me. Also a bit strange that Canelo isn't even mentioned.
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They have Rigondeuax at 4 with one notable win, and Pacquiao at 5? Behind who? Romania Gonzalez? LOL.
Marquez & Bradley are up there, but no Canelo Alvarez, or Wlad Klitchsko?
Yet they have some honorable mention of fighters like Tamasaki and (insert fringe contender here)
What a de****able, sick, joke of a list.
No one agrees with this **** list, who ever created it should he banned from working within the sport of boxing/boxing media-journalism.
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Donaire was#3 P4P before he lost to Rigo. Since Rigo DECISIVELY BEAT #3 P4P, shouldn't he be#3 or higher? Dude had never been in a clear competitive fight. Ward needs to disappear from this list until he addresses his legal issues and looks for a challenge outside of the div. I've never seen such a great fighter demolish an entire division and stay in it. You already beat the best, go up to 175 and test your skills there
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