Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Must Be SHO PPV, FMP Promoting

[balintawak]

I answered your question-please answer mine.

I don't give a flying **** what manny has to do since he refused the first fight. I've been clear about that for a while.

Why do you keep referring to the first round of negotiations? Precedence is not relevant here. There was no contract that was ever consummated, so everything is based on a clean slate. Your constant references to the first set of draft proposals are debatable at best, but you keep going back to that well. I think your well has gone dry. Let's move on.

[PAC-BOY]

Where does this notion that Pac "refused" the first fight keep coming from? It came down to a cutoff date for testing that both fighters couldnt come to terms on therefore the fight was scrapped. It had nothing to do with Pac turning down 50/50. Floyd wanted the cutoff date to be a x number of days while Pac wanted x number of days. During the next round of negotiations Pac gave in to what Floyd's cutoff demand was only for Floyd to say that now there's NO cutoff date. Notice how everytime Pac makes consessions, Floyd then moves the goalpost?

That logic is hard for a typical Floyd fan to comprehend. Most people who cannot see this are just utterly ***ing ******.

[PAC-BOY]

Why do you keep referring to the first round of negotiations? Precedence is not relevant here. There was no contract that was ever consummated, so everything is based on a clean slate. Your constant references to the first set of draft proposals are debatable at best, but you keep going back to that well. I think your well has gone dry. Let's move on.

Dunn is getting the E-shlt beat out of him. :WORD:

[HanzGruber]

Where does this notion that Pac "refused" the first fight keep coming from? It came down to a cutoff date for testing that both fighters couldnt come to terms on therefore the fight was scrapped. It had nothing to do with Pac turning down 50/50. Floyd wanted the cutoff date to be a x number of days while Pac wanted x number of days. During the next round of negotiations Pac gave in to what Floyd's cutoff demand was only for Floyd to say that now there's NO cutoff date. Notice how everytime Pac makes consessions, Floyd then moves the goalpost?

Roach already admitted it was their fault it didn't happen early on. And Floyd offers PAC 40 mil, now PAC wants to fight for charity? Funny how things work

[Beater_of_ass]

You finally got around to it in the last line-Manny is about the paper too. That's why he turned down the 1st offer-he wanted more. That's why he turned down the 2nd offer-he wanted more. How come you and others can't just post this.

All the other stuff you wrote is just fluff and cover. its not abut what any Floyd fan thinks. It s not about getting credit. Its only about one thing-accepting an offer to fight even though you aren't getting what you want.

No, he turned down the first time because of blood testing, at least know what you are talking about. The fight was completely agreed upon at 50/50, fact. When Floyd was about to sign he said "Oh, we need to talk blood testing." By the way, literally like when the papers were finalized Floyd brings it up. Manny ducked it, period. And as I stated you keep justifying (google it) Floyd avoiding now because Manny did it... Once. No one is saying people don't make mistakes, but at least Manny has done everything Floyd has wanted since.

So again Dunce, Manny ducked 1 time, Floyd has ducked 6 or 7 or 8. Just because Manny did it first doesn't mean it is okay for Floyd to do it 100 times since. That's child like thinking.

[IMDAZED]

No, he turned down the first time because of blood testing, at least know what you are talking about. The fight was completely agreed upon at 50/50, fact. When Floyd was about to sign he said "Oh, we need to talk blood testing." By the way, literally like when the papers were finalized Floyd brings it up. Manny ducked it, period. And as I stated you keep justifying (google it) Floyd avoiding now because Manny did it... Once. No one is saying people don't make mistakes, but at least Manny has done everything Floyd has wanted since.

So again Dunce, Manny ducked 1 time, Floyd has ducked 6 or 7 or 8. Just because Manny did it first doesn't mean it is okay for Floyd to do it 100 times since. That's child like thinking.

That's a lie, blood testing was outlined from the get-go in the original proposal.

Two, after you've turned down 50-50 and your PPV sales are so bad that your promoter asks HBO to stop publicizing them, how can you turn down $40m and ask for 50-50?

Finally, what makes anyone think Manny can call shots on network or promotions today?

Notice a pattern here? An offer is made and it's never good enough for Manny. Meanwhile, his bargaining position keeps decreasing. When will people stop making excuses for him?

[The Big Dunn]

So why are you mad at Manny? He's coming to Floyd asking for the fight and said I messed up let's do testing, I'll take less money and any weight or date you want. Why can't Floyd take the fact that Manny will take less money as more than fair? Seriously bringing up his promoter that's all Floyd has left, only because he ran away from HBO knowing they were going to make that fight happen. Now, even his daddies at Showtime are pushing for that fight and Floyd has run out of options. Floyd isn't as smart as CBS lawyers, if Showtime has lost money (which they have) Floyd has a contractual obligation to maximize profits flat out ducking Manny would I promise you void that contract.

Think Andre Ward saying Goosen doesn't get him fights while refusing to fight Kessler or really outside of Oakland at all. Courts recognize when a client (Floyd in this case) make it impossible to appease them. Another example an interior decorator who can't make their client happy even after redoing a room 3 or 4 times or even more. Don't think for a second CBS signed Floyd and said fight you who want, he probably can under the circumstance that he better make money, if he doesn't they can do what they want. Floyd isn't his own boss, someone else signs his checks.

Because he refused the biggest fight since Hagler Leonard.

Beater of ass-I've said many times that Floyd very easily could have let all this go and just made it easier for the fight to be made. But Its hard, awfully hard, to ask him and only him to put the good of the sport above his own desires when you are not asking manny to do same.

Does he have to make manny beg-no. DOes he have to try and make up for what he feels he lost in the ODH fight with Manny-no. But we wouldn't be here if Manny had just made the ****ing fight in 2010. If its ok for manny to wait it out over greed-you guys can't get mad if Floyd does same.

That's not why he left HBO-again speculation assessment does no good and isn't valid. Not giving Manny what he wants isn't ducking dude. if that's what you have to call it-so be it.

You make valid points about Floyd's contract. I am well aware he is a CBS employee.

[The Big Dunn]

Why do you keep referring to the first round of negotiations? Precedence is not relevant here. There was no contract that was ever consummated, so everything is based on a clean slate. Your constant references to the first set of draft proposals are debatable at best, but you keep going back to that well. I think your well has gone dry. Let's move on.

Clean slate-then why do you allow others to refer to past behavior. Can't have it both ways.

[balintawak]

That's a lie, blood testing was outlined from the get-go in the original proposal.

Two, after you've turned down 50-50 and your PPV sales are so bad that your promoter asks HBO to stop publicizing them, how can you turn down $40m and ask for 50-50?

Finally, what makes anyone think Manny can call shots on network or promotions today?

Notice a pattern here? An offer is made and it's never good enough for Manny. Meanwhile, his bargaining position keeps decreasing. When will people stop making excuses for him?

But where is the bargaining? What concessions are Floyd willing to make to offset his demands?

[Free Booty Dew!]

So why are you mad at Manny? He's coming to Floyd asking for the fight and said I messed up let's do testing, I'll take less money and any weight or date you want. Why can't Floyd take the fact that Manny will take less money as more than fair? Seriously bringing up his promoter that's all Floyd has left, only because he ran away from HBO knowing they were going to make that fight happen. Now, even his daddies at Showtime are pushing for that fight and Floyd has run out of options. Floyd isn't as smart as CBS lawyers, if Showtime has lost money (which they have) Floyd has a contractual obligation to maximize profits flat out ducking Manny would I promise you void that contract.

Think Andre Ward saying Goosen doesn't get him fights while refusing to fight Kessler or really outside of Oakland at all. Courts recognize when a client (Floyd in this case) make it impossible to appease them. Another example an interior decorator who can't make their client happy even after redoing a room 3 or 4 times or even more. Don't think for a second CBS signed Floyd and said fight you who want, he probably can under the circumstance that he better make money, if he doesn't they can do what they want. Floyd isn't his own boss, someone else signs his checks.

Thanks for putting these pretentious ******s in their place lmfao..!

Floyd and Haymon don't run ****. Showtime pays that b1tch and if he isn't generating what they want they will make him fight Pac and face the music.

Floyd doesn't have the leverage that the tards on here think. Pac will probably get 40% of the payout in a 60/40 split.