It hurts, right?

[The Big Dunn]

Absolutely not. Manny was the number 1 P4P fighter at the time Floyd accused him of juicing. There is something called "pride" that all of us humans have. Floyd's first mistake was accusing someone of something without any obvious proof in their performances. It showed his ignorance. He thinks he's smarter than what he is and that has always been his problem. How are going to bully someone like Manny? Or Roberto Duran? SRL? Sweet Pea? Or Cotto? Or Oscar? Get me? YOU DON'T! They all would've did what Manny did in that situation. Manny basically told Floyd to kiss his foreign ass and I don't blame him. How are you going to be the commission, the accountant, the promoter, and the fighter all at the same time? Where in the history of boxing has this diva-like behavior ever occurred with a so called world class fighter??? Meanwhile, Manny remained humble and exposed Floyd for what he is through silence and class. Last time I checked, Manny is picking up steam and on the verge of another Super Fight next year against somebody. I don't know who it is, but he's regained his spot in the sport despite the HATER(S).

cotto, jmm and shane all accepted testing without a problem. the only one who didn't is the same guy who told JMM no testing when JMM suggested they both take it.

We're all waiting for you to tell us why you have no problem accusing the fighters that ask Manny for testing of PED use but you don't say anything about Manny refusing to take those same tests.

[titan m]

First of all, my name is GOD-FR33. I am a professional musician and the only GOD-FR33. It's not me that won't let the Roidquez KO go. It's the other fanboys who make GIFS of it and act immature about that fight. Any logical fan or person knows that Manny has always had what he has right now. Speed, power, stamina, fast feet, and a muscular build. He has always stopped guys. He's never Ko'ed a fighter bigger than himself. What he does is outwork his opponents with angles, violence, and sheer will.

With Roidquez. His entire physique changed damn near in a year and a half. A fighter doesn't have that kind of time to train like a full-fledged body builder UNLESS they are on something. It's the only way to gain that type of mass. Look at Roidquez's arms, back, and traps. He's ****ing HUGE!!!!!!!!!! He's top heavy with little tiny legs. He now possesses one punch KO power. That wasn't the case before. He's faster than he's ever been. He was throwing 8-9 punch combos against Alvarado like he was 20 years old. He knocked him from one side of the ring, to the other and almost out of the ring. Now how the **** did he do that to a much bigger man????????? You morons didn't start the Manny rumors until Floyd punk ass was scared to fight him. He tried to cloud Manny's accomplishments when he had no proof. I am about fairness and I love the sport of boxing too much to not address bull**** when I see it. Juan is a ****ing cheater in my book, and many others. PERIOD.

You're keyboards taking a beating today I see, you fan boys crack me up every time, hopefully you're just a young teenager, possibly a female, at least then you're crazy posts can be excused but if you're a grown man on this childish crusade its kind of creepy. Pacquiao is a great fighter and he got caught with a perfect punch, it happens to the best of them, its not the end of the world.

[GOD-FR33]

He never did........

He never refused testing in the first place. He asked for a cut-off date. Do your research and stop trying to be smart by arguing "moot" points. Manny will fight anybody. His track record speaks for itself. Can you say the same about Floyd? My point exactly. Was it Manny that accused Floyd of anything to avoid a fight? Was it Manny that says you cannot wear a certain brand glove because you can punch? Is it Manny that claims to be TBE? Was it Manny that offered Floyd 40million? Take it or leave it? Huh? I am killing you all with FACTS and you hate it! I am done with this thread, man. Enjoy Floyd's BS rematch this weekend.

[GOD-FR33]

Perfect punch.........

Perfect punch? Okay. Who are you? Get your rep and points up before you even address me.

[hectari]

Pacs fault for not demading the drug tests like Roach was suggesting, Roach told Arum he wanted random testing because Marquez was looking huge, Roach wanted the testing.

Pac told him no its okay im not scared and no need for it and than Bam he got knocked out cold.

But also, If you are a Floyd fan and in this thread telling these Pac fans to get over it go screw yourself you have no room to talk, you guys were the same guys going on for years for Pac to test and calling him a roid user with no proof, yet JMM signs with a steroid maker, who never REFORMED like Conte did, and was still doing ped dealing in Mexico after he snitched... Get lost you have no say on this issue.

Anyway my thing is stop harping on this issue OP, Pac screwed up, let it go, Marquez is and was juicing its obvious as hell at his age getting that big that fast and having Acne, but whose fault is it? the commission for having weak testing, and Pac for not listening to Roach when roach suspected JMM of juicing.

[GOD-FR33]

Green K........

You know what? I respect this sensible post. Green K sent. This is a great way to end this thread.

[Slick Veteran]

Dude, take the KO like a man. You're hero Manny did. Why can't you?

Couldn't had said it any better.

It's unfortunate that grown men whine more than a child that got spanked on his ass or Pacquaio after he woke up and had to look the Pinoy people in the face the next day to mumble he failed.

[The Big Dunn]

He never refused testing in the first place. He asked for a cut-off date. Do your research and stop trying to be smart by arguing "moot" points. Manny will fight anybody. His track record speaks for itself. Can you say the same about Floyd? My point exactly. Was it Manny that accused Floyd of anything to avoid a fight? Was it Manny that says you cannot wear a certain brand glove because you can punch? Is it Manny that claims to be TBE? Was it Manny that offered Floyd 40million? Take it or leave it? Huh? I am killing you all with FACTS and you hate it! I am done with this thread, man. Enjoy Floyd's BS rematch this weekend.

Yes he did. he hasn't fought Floyd, didn't fight pwill so its hard to claim he'll fight anybody. If you can say it about Manny then you can say it about Floyd.

what does many turning down $0 mil or Floyd calling himself TBE have to do with this.

You still haven't answered the question asked.

[The Big Dunn]

Pacs fault for not demading the drug tests like Roach was suggesting, Roach told Arum he wanted random testing because Marquez was looking huge, Roach wanted the testing.

Pac told him no its okay im not scared and no need for it and than Bam he got knocked out cold.

But also, If you are a Floyd fan and in this thread telling these Pac fans to get over it go screw yourself you have no room to talk, you guys were the same guys going on for years for Pac to test and calling him a roid user with no proof, yet JMM signs with a steroid maker, who never REFORMED like Conte did, and was still doing ped dealing in Mexico after he snitched... Get lost you have no say on this issue.

Anyway my thing is stop harping on this issue OP, Pac screwed up, let it go, Marquez is and was juicing its obvious as hell at his age getting that big that fast and having Acne, but whose fault is it? the commission for having weak testing, and Pac for not listening to Roach when roach suspected JMM of juicing.

You know what? I respect this sensible post. Green K sent. This is a great way to end this thread.

If JMM was juicing for the 4th fight you can't really complain when anyone says manny was juicing since in both cases the same set of evidence is used.

[tomhawq]

cotto, jmm and shane all accepted testing without a problem. the only one who didn't is the same guy who told JMM no testing when JMM suggested they both take it.

We're all waiting for you to tell us why you have no problem accusing the fighters that ask Manny for testing of PED use but you don't say anything about Manny refusing to take those same tests.

mosley got 18 days cut off and froid got 19, then 18 in the ortiz fight and one blood test was taken in each. and the pattern says froid will never go beyond 14 days cut off. there were no details in froid's succeeding fights, which included the cotto fight. nonetheless, according to reports he tested positive in all three fights.

pac agreed to 3 blood tests and unlimited urine, which is way above and beyond current testing. (and this is the guy floboners say doesn't want to take the test.) pederson, berto, froid and many of his tmt fighters were tested positive taken from urine samples.)

i would stay away from these roid topics if i were a floboner. there's nothing worse than getting tested positive three times on three fights.