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  • Sweet Pea 50
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    • Chuckguy
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      #22
      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
      Anyone who comments please watch the video first. If people who are accusing pac of doping with little to no proof at all i dont know why they dont accuse jmm who is 100 times more suspectable. Memo is a chemist, he would laugh at ariza and is probably better than conte. He knows all the game out there and he is bragging it out right in documentaries. He is laughing at the testing proccesses mentioning how can they trust those if theres so many flaws in them. Testing is no use for master chemist like heredia, i dont know why hes even allowed to work with athletes and walk as a freeman.

      Pacquiao was climbing up weights and was accused of doping because of how he dismantles his opponents. But lets not forget he was also approaching his prime that time. He just went to his natural weight. He destroyed a weight drain past prime delahoya. Hatton who walk thru him. Cotto who is 2lb below 147, if hes weight drain we could make a case or not.
      I dont see how pacquiao was on PEDS that time when all his opponents played towards his style and their gameplan was all to bully him.

      Meanwhile marquez at 39, hires a ped chemist, in his best shape of his life at 39. Punches he couldnt hurt pac before can KO him now. Sends alvarado almost out of the ring. Who wouldve thought the marquez before heredia can do all that????

      Its like hiring an ex child ******er to baby sit your boy and when you came home one noght you saw blood stains at the butt of ur boy and ur just gonna pretend like it was some batch of macaroni when it clearly isnt.

      Call me bathurt. But lets not be ignorant. Ofcourse JMM was confident to be tested because what he has cant be detected. That was no lucky he was landing those punches at will against pac for the last 3 fights, the only difference is the power behind it.

      Dude get over it Ariza said it himself! When manny climbed up in weight he seemed the advise from memo! Oh but manny isn't suspect
      Why didnt manny ever implement random testing in any fight just to prove his innocence?
      You PAC fan boys really need mental help.
      Is JMM dirty? Probaly but don't act like manny is clean or was clean cause he wasn't only a fool would think that

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      • RAV3N
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        #23
        It sounds like a lot of people dont even know what memo does for a living.

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        • Chuckguy
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          #24
          Originally posted by RAV3N
          It sounds like a lot of people dont even know what memo does for a living.
          It sounds like a lot of people don't know or care what is in Ariza's special shakes

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          • ADP02
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            #25
            Originally posted by LarryXXX
            Honestly man stop....Him and Manny took the exact same test..the same test ya'll claimed was enough for years..If he would have taken random drug testing from the jump maybe this would have never happened..it is called Karma
            Most people were just su****ious of Floyd's motives. So don't change this around. They said that if Manny agrees, watch Floyd come back with another roadblock. 100 roadblocks later, you are still taking Floyd's side. Why?

            Furthermore, from DAY #1, Manny was OK with extra testing. Negotiations went bad. No kidding when one side ACCUSES the other of taking PEDs, it's bound to go bad!!!

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            • lefthook2daliva
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              #26


              KTFO6

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              • humanpunchingbg
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                #27
                You Pacstans need to get over it already, Sleepy Head already has. It's ****ing embarrassing, Do you guys even sleep at night? With all this time you've wasted gathering "Proof" of Marquez using steroids, most of you could've become private investigators or have some kind of degree on bio-chemistry by now.

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                • ADP02
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by humanpunchingbg
                  You Pacstans need to get over it already, Sleepy Head already has. It's ****ing embarrassing, Do you guys even sleep at night? With all this time you've wasted gathering "Proof" of Marquez using steroids, most of you could've become private investigators or have some kind of degree on bio-chemistry by now.
                  People don't need to be a bio-chemist. They just get the information directly from the source ..... Memo, Marquez's so called "trainer"



                  SPIEGEL: Do you advocate the authorization of doping?

                  Heredia: No, but I believe we should authorize the use of epo, IGF and testosterone, as well as adrenaline and epitestosterone substances that the body produces itself. Simply for pragmatic reasons, because it is impossible to detect them, and also because of the fairness aspect.

                  SPIEGEL: Are you serious: fairness?

                  Heredia: Yes


                  SPIEGEL: Are you proud of giving PEDs to achieve their gold medals?

                  Heredia: Of course, I still am. It is still a tremendous achievement

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                  • RAV3N
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    It sounds like a lot of people don't know or care what is in Ariza's special shakes
                    You can only make accusations against Ariza.

                    Memo has actually been found guilty of making peds for athletes, it was his profession.

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                    • firstborn
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                      #30
                      Most people were just su****ious of Floyd's motives. So don't change this around. They said that if Manny agrees, watch Floyd come back with another roadblock. 100 roadblocks later, you are still taking Floyd's side. Why?

                      Furthermore, from DAY #1, Manny was OK with extra testing. Negotiations went bad. No kidding when one side ACCUSES the other of taking PEDs, it's bound to go bad!!!
                      I agree with the bold wholeheartdly and for the record, I think both sides are at fault for the fight not happening. However on that same note, I don't see how Arum and Pac thought the fight would get made when they were actively suing Mayweather for defamation of character.

                      Not debating wether Pac had grounds to sue Mayweather but they couldn't have honestly thought negotiations would go smoothly from that point on.......

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