Bad Stoppage by Benjy Esteves

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Ortiz is a lame bro

not arguing that at all.

[joesaiditstrue]

You still have faith in Ortiz? The guy who hired a therapist just to fight Lucas? why?

won't be long before threads pop up blaming matthysse for this

[Dirk Diggler UK]

can you provide evidence showing that the rules state that at exactly 10 you're out?

thanks in advance.

Evidence? Mate, it's called a 10 count. A 10 count. What is not clear in that description?

Can you count to 10?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Evidence? Mate, it's called a 10 count. A 10 count. What is not clear in that description?

Can you count to 10?

so in other words you dont have evidence. based on your idiotic logic, it should called the 9 count, not the 10 count.

stop sniffing coke with ricky bro.

[ArgentinaX]

I dont see how you can feel bad for Ortiz. Im just pissed because I had been looking forward to that fight and seeing Matthysse fight for months. So ya, it ****ings sucks in that aspect. All we got to see is a light sparring session.

[joesaiditstrue]

i didnt realize people were such sticklers for the 10 count.

ok, let me get this straight, there is a standard 8 count, then you have 1 second to decide whether to continue or not and at 10 you are out?



i would love to see the actual rule for this.

no, there isn't a "standard 8 count", there's a "standing 8 count" which almost never gets used in fights

it's where a referee has the ability to see if a fighter is getting blasted but doesn't go down, the ref can step between the two fighters in the middle of the exchange and start counting to 10 to let the fighter recover

this was pretty much replaced not long ago by referee's just stopping the fight right there

there was a recent standing 8 count used in a UK fight, can't remember if it was David Price or somebody else

[Dirk Diggler UK]

so in other words you dont have evidence. based on your idiotic logic, it should called the 9 count, not the 10 count.

stop sniffing coke with ricky bro.

The referee said 8, 9 and then he waved his hands which signifies 10. He counted to 10.

If he'd waved his hands after 8 then that's a 9 count.

Am I actually explaining this to a human being?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

if you're getting up at 9 you should be allowed to continue.
if you're getting up at 10 you should be allowed to continue.
if the ref finished counting to 10, and you're still down, then you stop the fight.

that is the proper 10 count.

[joesaiditstrue]

I dont see how you can feel bad for Ortiz. Im just pissed because I had been looking forward to that fight and seeing Matthysse fight for months. So ya, it ****ings sucks in that aspect. All we got to see is a light sparring session.

it's a fine line between feeling bad for Ortiz & Blaming Benji Esteves vs saying "tough luck, don't put this much faith in the referee and wait to stand up at 9.999 seconds"

it was a bad stoppage in my opinion, but I also blame Ortiz for waiting so long to get up

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

The referee said 8, 9 and then he waved his hands which signifies 10. He counted to 10.

If he'd waved his hands after 8 then that's a 9 count.

Am I actually explaining this to a human being?

again,

can you show me evidence of your interpretation of the 10 count rule.