TMT Gym Sparring Methods- Disgusting

[strykr619]

Can't wait to hear the news of May getting sued due to a injuries occurred in his gym.

I am highly doubtful he is savy enough to have every single one of those dudes sign waivers before fighting....

[Dagomba]

You didn't bold shit of my post.

Keep your replies straight and know who you're talking to before trying to be a smart ass.



"work" for 30 minutes? Sure.... That wasn't "work", so your question doesn't matter.

I wasn't there, and neither were you... Can I prove it? No more than you can disprove it... but Floyd sure as hell was talking about 30 minute sessions with no breaks that regularly happen amongst them.

Because I don't agree with a mod I'm a smartass? Easy with your superiority complex.

I though I bolded your ridiculous statement that they "beat the living **** out of each other."

I can't disprove it but I'm not claiming to know that they indeed beat the livng **** out each other like you keep on doing, which is your only argument. It's an opinion not a fact. What we saw were short segments and in the end the Brit's hand was hurt like we can hurt ourselves doing regular sparring. They weren't concussed and they hand no markings on their face.

Gym wars happen when people choose to participate in them. They were working, they sparred for 30 minutes until they had enough, do you think you run on mere adrenaline for so long? They had the condition to do what they did. you can't do the impossible even if you're under peer pressure.

[Gucci]

I knew the entire gym was full of this fake hiphop wannabe gangsta mentality when I saw broner beating up some dude that stopped at the bell and broner kept sucker punching him and mayweather and the entire team was just laughing lol.

[Wildin out]

a bunch of emotional all dudes here huh? this is boxing, it's a brutal sport and will remain that way. to prepare for a brutal sport? you gotta prepare in a brutal way. that's the way most of us in the game came up, and you gotta show your stripes in order to get prepared for the biggest night of your life.

funny how when it's the TMT gym doing these type of sparring methods it's a bad thing, but i guarantee you one thing. if things were the opposite and this type of sparring was done at the robert garcia gym, you'd all be calling them "tough mexican warriors" and talk about how hard those fighters are fighting to the death and so on. but because floyd is related, you possess that extra hate. we know the game by now.

[soul_survivor]

a bunch of emotional all dudes here huh? this is boxing, it's a brutal sport and will remain that way. to prepare for a brutal sport? you gotta prepare in a brutal way. that's the way most of us in the game came up, and you gotta show your stripes in order to get prepared for the biggest night of your life.

funny how when it's the TMT gym doing these type of sparring methods it's a bad thing, but i guarantee you one thing. if things were the opposite and this type of sparring was done at the robert garcia gym, you'd all be calling them "tough mexican warriors" and talk about how hard those fighters are fighting to the death and so on. but because floyd is related, you possess that extra hate. we know the game by now.

What annoys me is that I don't think Floyd does 30 min non stop sparring sessions lol if you wana have a tough environment, you gotta be a part of it yourself.

Personally, as someone who boxed for many years, there is a right way to train and a wrong way. Exhausting yourself in a sparring session, during which you may hurt yourself real bad is the wrong way, it just makes you weaker for the actual fight. And then having dogs bark insults at you can only break your confidence, that's not how good boxing training works.

[Wildin out]

What annoys me is that I don't think Floyd does 30 min non stop sparring sessions lol if you wana have a tough environment, you gotta be a part of it yourself.

Personally, as someone who boxed for many years, there is a right way to train and a wrong way. Exhausting yourself in a sparring session, during which you may hurt yourself real bad is the wrong way, it just makes you weaker for the actual fight. And then having dogs bark insults at you can only break your confidence, that's not how good boxing training works.

it's called the dog house for a reason, and yes floyd does participate in very long sparring sessions. haven't you seen the footage of floyd sparring for the cotto fight? it was the one one live stream, which he rarely does. the pace was a lot different because there was no animosity between him and his sparring partner, but they went at it for a very long time. in that all access episode, those two guys sparring had a point to prove and that's why it seemed brutal in nature.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

a bunch of emotional all dudes here huh? this is boxing, it's a brutal sport and will remain that way. to prepare for a brutal sport? you gotta prepare in a brutal way. that's the way most of us in the game came up, and you gotta show your stripes in order to get prepared for the biggest night of your life.

funny how when it's the TMT gym doing these type of sparring methods it's a bad thing, but i guarantee you one thing. if things were the opposite and this type of sparring was done at the robert garcia gym, you'd all be calling them "tough mexican warriors" and talk about how hard those fighters are fighting to the death and so on. but because floyd is related, you possess that extra hate. we know the game by now.

Not necessarily.

Boxing is a brutal sport, and you should go hard in sparring to prepare yourself for a fight. I also think that intentionally trying to hurt someone is idiotic. You need your fighter to peak at the right moment, you need him to be physically healthy, and mentally confident before a fight.

I have been in some really bad gyms where fighters are beaten down, disrespected, made fun of and even attacked for their weakness. I have seen some bad things, and IMO I don't think it's beneficial for the fighter himself.

Fighters like Sergio Martinez has said he's scaled down sparring in the last decade of his career because he felt his body was breaking down.

[LinealChampion]

I bet if this was a gym in Mexico or Philippines or Cuba people would be posting about what true warriors they are and how fraud puss*es like Gayweather would duck the sparring and do pitty pat mitt work all day.

It doesn't even have to be a Mexico or Philippines gym, it could be Roberto Garcia's Boxing Academy in California and you have to understand that everyone their would be labeled WARRIORS

Like the Antonio Margarito's of the world.

[Dagomba]

I didnt say that because I'm an ADMIN... I said that because you didn't BOLD my post, you bolded someone else's.

Nice try, though.

So you clearly didn't know who you were talking to.


You didn't... not the first time you thought wrong.. I'm sure.

It's a mistake I accepted, I thought I bolded your opinion that the were beating the **** out of each other. You've also made mistakes... I'm sure. What a ridiculous thing to say or to try to make fun of.

Now on to the real argument:

My assumption was based on factual statements from Floyds mouth about 30 minute sparring sessions... and no breaks during the doghouse fights... loser has to quit in front of everyone.
It's a pretty safe assumption these fights go on 15 minutes - 20, 30+
You on the other hand, are now back peddling.
As if the fight only lasted 19 minutes instead of 30, it's not as bad.
But, it is... there is no one there to protect them from themselves, like there is in other gyms where coaches will stop sparring, and refs stop fights.

Now you are assuming when you replied a simple "lol" when I asked you to talk facts? You are exaggerating to prove your point when you claim they beat the **** out of each other because there's still no factual evidence to prove it. Sure it's a health risk but this risk is always there in boxing.

Again, they were conditioned to spar for 30 minutes straight because otherwise they wouldn't have done it, like I said they can't accomplish impossible things even on an adrenaline rush and/or peer pressure.

There was no ref with the younger Rahman but he sure knew when to quit. You seem to think that with no ref they'll fight till they die or something. Even if you don't think so, there's still etiquette in most gym wars.

There's an opinion. You don't know shit if they were concussed or not... how would you? To put it in your words, they only showed snippets.

NFL players walk off the field just fine, looks fine.. only to find out an hour later that have a concussion... I doubt your MD degree whilst watching the tv allows you to be so perceptive of their actual internal damage.

Even then, I didnt say they had concussions... I said its brain damage waiting to happen.

You're able to make assumptions based on factual snips of evidence and when I do, I don't know ****. Look, you're taking everything to the extreme practicing boxing is a brain damage waiting to happen, it doesnt mean it's going to happen.
Now YOUR MD degree whilst watching the TV allows you to be perspective of their internal damage? You try to make fun of me when you're doing the exact same thing. They were fine, I can assure you they're fine. I'm sure New England can get you their contact info with his media credentials.

It's not the point.

Whether they're 'conditioned' or not.

NFL players are conditioned to take big hits... but if one gets hurt, they stop, they look at them... and if necessary take them out of the game to save them from risking further long term permanent damage.

A lot of those players would CHOOSE to keep playing if it was up to them... but it's not, and for good reason... many players are saved long term damage by getting pulled from the game because a DR is there to look at them.

NONE of that is the case here.

Again you're taking everything to the extreme. Freak accidents happen all the time, sure. Like I said they are doing risky **** but the reason they were able to spar for 30 minutes was because of their condition. You don't know how much punishment they actually took but you seem to think they were involved in a massacre which in the end of the segment we see that both look like any other boxer who has just sparred. They're fine, they aren't new to getting hit.

[New England]

that is not sparring. it is not sustainable to train like that.