Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Explains Ariza Situation, MX Gloves

[tibbar]

......................Well this is embarrassing...

I cant even believe this guy is a representative of the sport I love so much, I mean, this is embarrasing. I think of all of the great's I've had the pleasure to witness in my lifetime, and pulling this kind of crap every sigle fight or some other ridiculous bs(Maidana's purse was a disgrace, for example)???? GTFOH Floyd and take your silly circus with you.

its so embarrassing even, when the one claiming to be TBE was begging to be helped explaining the "b-itch" move theyve done. Thats clear duck there, ducking the interviewer.

[heavyhands702]

I don't know why people are still crying about the glove issue. I don't blame floyd one bit for not letting chino where those gloves. The gloves have little padding in the knuckle area and that would be benefit to chino and his dirty fighting antics. he can try and rabbit punch floyd in the back of the head which is illegal and was done in the first fight. Cotto might have worn the gloves but he's not a dirty cheating fighter like chino either. maidana claimed he won the fight with the gloves he used in the first fight so there shouldn't be a problem wearing them again.

[SamuraiSam]

Games like Floyd is playing with Maidana have been going on for years. Don't forget Maidana did try to get some different gloves before Floyd went all diva on him. Anyway, I think you might be interested in a good history lesson regarding gloves. Check this out:

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/boxing-gloves

"Cassius split his glove on the seam near the thumb," Angelo Dundee later explained. "Actually, it happened in the first round. I spotted the tear and told him, 'Keep your hand closed.' I didn't want anyone to see it because everything was going our way. Then, at the end of the fourth round, he got nailed. So when he came back to the corner, I helped the split a little, pulled it to the side, and made the referee aware that there was a torn glove."

No back-up gloves were available and, after a brief delay, the fight resumed. " I don't know how much time that got us," Dundee acknowledged. "Maybe a minute, but it was enough. If we hadn't gotten the extra time, I don't know what would have happened. I think Cassius would have made it through, but we don't have to answer that question."

Ironic that you would post a link to a Thomas Hauser article. I thought team TMT rejects or dismisses anything he writes. According to the Floydiot/Flom0 Slick Veteran, on the thread for "100 Days: The New York Times and Boxing," he says, "Hauser doesn't investigate, he just **** ride on rumors and make speculations, I never seen him make a reference of any significance in boxing. Everyone he picked against or wrote against, has proven him wrong." (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...5#post14900765).

Has anyone seen where that cowardly fool Slick Veteran disappeared to? He still hasn't responded with any evidence to counter my rebuttal.

Anyway, another good read from Hauser. Thanks for the link.

[ADP02]

I don't know why people are still crying about the glove issue. I don't blame floyd one bit for not letting chino where those gloves. The gloves have little padding in the knuckle area and that would be benefit to chino and his dirty fighting antics. he can try and rabbit punch floyd in the back of the head which is illegal and was done in the first fight. Cotto might have worn the gloves but he's not a dirty cheating fighter like chino either. maidana claimed he won the fight with the gloves he used in the first fight so there shouldn't be a problem wearing them again.

Only Floyd/Ellerbe said that Maidana was a cheat NOBODY else. Think for yourself for a second instead of being Floyd's parrot. THINK!!!

Ask yourself this simple question, if Maidana cheated, would he be fighting Floyd next week or would he have been suspended for being a cheat? THINK FOR YOURSELF!!!! Floyd brought up that Maidana cheated like Margarito BUT Margarito was suspended NOT Maidana!!!

Secondly, even though Maidana and some others think that Maidana won, officially he lost! So again THINK FOR YOURSELF as those points you made are not yours they are Floyd's and guess what? They are dumb!!!

Finally, Maidana has OFFICIALLY KOed opponents in APPROVED gloves that he prefers. So the question should be, why is Floyd not allowing those gloves when they even PROMOTED Maidana as a KO artist?

[Evol]

So you admit Ariza is a cheater? That's a first for you. You're boxed in with nowhere to go. If you say Ariza is a cheater, then you admit Manny ducked Mayweather and didn't take OST because he was working with a cheater. If you say Ariza wasn't a cheater, then you look ****** for questioning Floyd's association. However, thus far, Ariza came to see Floyd workout, and didn't come to train Floyd, like he did Manny, Rios, and Maidana. I suggest you just say, "Ariza is clean." Remember when I questioned Ariza's actions in Broner vs. Maidana, and you TOTALLY supported every thing Ariza did. You even barked on me about Ariza being in the corner..."What rule says a S&C coach can't be in the corner?" Remember that?

no, im repeating to u what floyd and every floyd fans on here was saying for years. that ariza is a cheater. so regardless if floyd hired ariza or not why would he associate himself with a guy who he accused of being a cheater for years. but i see u wanna run with the "its all for business" excuse, thats why i said smart business move right LOL!!!

[Evol]

Anything to get people talking about Mayweather. There's more than 150 posts about Mayweather on this thread, and less than 40 about Pacquiao vs. Algeri. A lot of times, I don't even see the hardcore Manny fans posting on threads about Manny. I only see them on Mayweather threads. That's why Mayweather PPVs are double the Manny PPVs. Hate it or love it, Mayweather is still on top of his game. But why would so many hope that Floyd had hired Ariza? That's because they want to say "See, it's not just my boy that's suspect, your boy is suspect too." Unfortunately (for the haters), that didn't happen. And the boycott Arum called for, that didn't happen either. And for Manny fighting better opponents than Mayweather, that didn't happen either. But maybe, just maybe, Maidana wins this rematch. My advice to you, "keep hope alive!"

nobody "hope" for anything lololol

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Alex Ariza

@ArizaFitness

Strength Coach of @floydmayweather

[ADP02]

no, im repeating to u what floyd and every floyd fans on here was saying for years. that ariza is a cheater. so regardless if floyd hired ariza or not why would he associate himself with a guy who he accused of being a cheater for years. but i see u wanna run with the "its all for business" excuse, thats why i said smart business move right LOL!!!

It was such a smart move that Floyd/Ellerbe were mumbling/stuttering because they were so happy with that brilliant move ..... hmmm, NO! lol!

[The Big Dunn]

had a quick scan of this thread.
basically it comes down to two points of view:

1. Dunn thinks that if you are the star it's cool for you to take unfair advantages over your opponent and will support a guy who does so and hopes said star will use said unfair advantages/weakening of the opponent to get the win.

2. Most others think taking an unfair advantage is a pussy move and that both fighters should be comfortable and in the equipment/gear they prefer so we have a nice even and above all fair fight where both guys are coming into it at their best.


think we can see how this one stands ... any need to continue the thread further?

1. Actually, Dunn knows that top draws have been doing this for years. He also knows its just the way the sport works. Dunn doesn't care if its a guy he likes or a guy he doesn't like.

2. Most others don't think that. They didn't care or didn't know and are making more of it now that its Floyd. When posters let people know which fighters have done this in the past, popular fighters like ODH or Lennox Lewis (for example) most of the posters up in arms about "glove choice" changed it to "timing of the glove choice".

[Evol]

1. Actually, Dunn knows that top draws have been doing this for years. He also knows its just the way the sport works. Dunn doesn't care if its a guy he likes or a guy he doesn't like.

2. Most others don't think that. They didn't care or didn't know and are making more of it now that its Floyd. When posters let people know which fighters have done this in the past, popular fighters like ODH or Lennox Lewis (for example) most of the posters up in arms about "glove choice" changed it to "timing of the glove choice".

top draws dont flex their power and then diss their opponent for being easy work. just stop it. its embarassing.

[The Big Dunn]

top draws dont flex their power and then diss their opponent for being easy work. just stop it. its embarassing.

stop pretending the easy work thing means anything. your grasping at straws because you have no leg to stand on.

Most of the posters in this thread had their argument blown to bits when the series of tweets from Lennox Lewis was posted. The only real issue any of you could possibly have is timing-yet you ignore the glove change was made after the inspection in the 1st fight and has already been resolved for this one.

As usual, clowns are pretending this is a Floyd issue and many, not all, are posting their positions in that vacuum alone. Its a boxing issue- Gamefrk is one of the few in this thread that at least acknowledged that.

If your point is its a b1tch move when a sides do it and its a long standing issue in the sport that needs to be changed-cool. I agree on the 2nd and disagree on the 1st.

If its any other of the usual NSB Floyd related gripes-go learn something about what really goes on behind the scenes in the sport.

Bottom line-if the aside chooses your gloves and puts you in a bad position-go out and win the fight anyway. Other fighters, including the main subject of this discussion, have overcome those "herculean odds"-as some of you have suggested- and gone on to win the fight anyway.