Comments Thread For: Algieri Warns Pacquiao: I Hit Harder Than People Think

[Evol]

Floyd and JMM are HOF boxers and 2 of the 4 or 5 most talented pure boxers of their generation. that is why Manny struggled against JMM and why I think he would against Floyd. Algieiri is not in their class. Any difficulty Manny might have is mitigated by the fact Roach saw him 1st hand in the last fight. Added to that, algieiri has 20 pro fights and no amater fights. The likelihood that he will fight differently is miniscule. Floyd and JMM have the ability to fight in different ways.

Yes it did. He still may. But TROUBLE and losing is 2 different things. I also, as EVol will confirm, have not said that since he showed improvement in that area.

You are trying to make algieiri out to be a great boxer. He isn't. He may do things that great boxers have done, but that doesn't make him great.

That you wont bet who wins this fight tells all of us you really don't believe what you are posting.

what???? but roach training both pac and ruslan is not a problem if this match up gets made? ruslan can get a new trainer and that will make roach forget all about ruslan's strong point and weakness?

[The Big Dunn]

ruslan can get another trainer and that will erase all of roach's memory on ruslan? LMAO!

this is ******ed. you are trying to back into a point and you are making yourself look ******.

Does roach know ruslan, of course. would he use that to help manny if they fought, of course. would that knowledge mitigate some of ruslan's "advantages", of course. I never said or suggested otherwise.

You are trying to take points made in our discussion of why I wanted manny to fight ruslan and are trying to make them apply to the discussion of is algieiri a tough fight for manny because you know it isn't a tough fight for manny at all.

[hectari]

Floyd and JMM are HOF boxers and 2 of the 4 or 5 most talented pure boxers of their generation. that is why Manny struggled against JMM and why I think he would against Floyd. Algieiri is not in their class. Any difficulty Manny might have is mitigated by the fact Roach saw him 1st hand in the last fight. Added to that, algieiri has 20 pro fights and no amater fights. The likelihood that he will fight differently is miniscule. Floyd and JMM have the ability to fight in different ways.

Yes it did. He still may. But TROUBLE and losing is 2 different things. I also, as EVol will confirm, have not said that since he showed improvement in that area.

You are trying to make algieiri out to be a great boxer. He isn't. He may do things that great boxers have done, but that doesn't make him great.

That you wont bet who wins this fight tells all of us you really don't believe what you are posting.

Someone being a HOF boxer doesn't come into play when i study styles.

I go off what I see, I never said Chris is a great boxer. You seem to downplay him though and act like he is tailor made plodder.

I am 100 percent fair, I have no agenda, YOU revealed your agenda and paranoia in this thread, because you do it you think I do it.


Nope I don't, I never came in saying oh WOW did you see Pacman he is the greatest after he beat Rios, I wasn't really impressed. I scolded his win against Mosley, I did the same against Bradley so where is this agenda of me faking to big up Pac later?

i think you are a scary individual with a manipulative paranoid mind Dunn you need help. You revealed your strategy and your agenda in this thread.

Why is it only when I make bold predictions you have a problem when it comes with Pacquiao? you will say only this when I do it with Pac like im doing it to make his possible win more impressive? When you said that it means you don't want to give him props at all so you revealed yourself.

I said Danny Garcia would beat Mattyssee and he did, Peter Quillin hits harder than GGG and might knock him out, I said Nonito Donaire is a washed up scrub, but those don't seem to bother you. I don't get it, but now I do you are still on that Flowmo tip. Where you have to downplay Pacs wins, pretty sad Dunn get off that already dude.

I guess when I said Pacquiao looked better against Bradley than Floyd looked agaisnt a tailormade Maidana who got outboxed by Alexander and Morales that bugs you? why its the honest truth.

[IMDAZED]

I think a prime Ivan Calderon would box circles around Pacquiao. He just has the style to do it.

[Evol]

this is ******ed. you are trying to back into a point and you are making yourself look ******.

Does roach know ruslan, of course. would he use that to help manny if they fought, of course. would that knowledge mitigate some of ruslan's "advantages", of course. I never said or suggested otherwise.

You are trying to take points made in our discussion of why I wanted manny to fight ruslan and are trying to make them apply to the discussion of is algieiri a tough fight for manny because you know it isn't a tough fight for manny at all.

when did i ever said chris is a tough fight for manny? stop making shiiet up dunn. i only quoted u because of what u said about roach getting a chance to see algieri first hand. thats why i asked why does it matter when u didnt care about roach training both manny and ruslan if this match up wwas to be made. your a funny guy dunn..

[hectari]

this is ******ed. you are trying to back into a point and you are making yourself look ******.

Does roach know ruslan, of course. would he use that to help manny if they fought, of course. would that knowledge mitigate some of ruslan's "advantages", of course. I never said or suggested otherwise.

You are trying to take points made in our discussion of why I wanted manny to fight ruslan and are trying to make them apply to the discussion of is algieiri a tough fight for manny because you know it isn't a tough fight for manny at all.

So basically Dunn doesn't want Algieri to look as a credible threat, and he thinks those who are saying Chris is a tough match up are just doing it to make Pac look good. smh. Dunn get lost already, you still on that fanboy ****.

if anything it makes you look bad cause you trying to purposely ignore facts and are downplaying Chris to make him look like he isn't a tough style match up for Manny.

My question to you Dunn is what if Chris pulls off the upset what will you say?

[The Big Dunn]

Someone being a HOF boxer doesn't come into play when i study styles.

I go off what I see, I never said Chris is a great boxer. You seem to downplay him though and act like he is tailor made plodder.

I am 100 percent fair, I have no agenda, YOU revealed your agenda and paranoia in this thread, because you do it you think I do it.


Nope I don't, I never came in saying oh WOW did you see Pacman he is the greatest after he beat Rios, I wasn't really impressed. I scolded his win against Mosley, I did the same against Bradley so where is this agenda of me faking to big up Pac later?

i think you are a scary individual with a manipulative paranoid mind Dunn you need help. You revealed your strategy and your agenda in this thread.

Why is it only when I make bold predictions you have a problem when it comes with Pacquiao? you will say only this when I do it with Pac like im doing it to make his possible win more impressive? When you said that it means you don't want to give him props at all so you revealed yourself.

I said Danny Garcia would beat Mattyssee and he did, Peter Quillin hits harder than GGG and might knock him out, I said Nonito Donaire is a washed up scrub, but those don't seem to bother you. I don't get it, but now I do you are still on that Flowmo tip. Where you have to downplay Pacs wins, pretty sad Dunn get off that already dude.

I guess when I said Pacquiao looked better against Bradley than Floyd looked agaisnt a tailormade Maidana who got outboxed by Alexander and Morales that bugs you? why its the honest truth.

rios and algieiri are not Bradley and Mosley. you made ridiculous threads before both rios and algieiri fights trying to make them compelling matchups when they were not. the notion that either rios or algieiri is a tough fight for Manny is pure BS.

You only make these kinds of ******ed posts/threads for manny fights. that's why I and others react the way we do. there is no stylistic matchup problem in this fight. if the only way you can save face is to make it about me, so be it. Even here on NSB posters are not ****** enough to fall for that.

we are talking about the algieiri fight, a fight that hasn't happened yet. How am I trying to downplay Manny's win when it hasn't happened yet? When all else fails, and you've been thoroughly exposed and had your points factually refuted, call me a flowmo and bring Floyd into a discussion that doesn't involve him.

You've proven every point I've made by not accepting the offer to bet on who will win and then referencing Floyd.

[The Big Dunn]

when did i ever said chris is a tough fight for manny? stop making shiiet up dunn. i only quoted u because of what u said about roach getting a chance to see algieri first hand. thats why i asked why does it matter when u didnt care about roach training both manny and ruslan if this match up wwas to be made. your a funny guy dunn..

This making believe I put words in your mouth or misrepresented your post wont work dude. I explained the roach point clearly. you can pretend otherwise and/or bring in points from another discussion and try to make them apply. it wont help you.

I understand why Algieiri is getting the fight. He beat provo and provo was likely next up. Most prefer he fight a ww titlist/contender since the Floyd fight can be made.

So basically Dunn doesn't want Algieri to look as a credible threat, and he thinks those who are saying Chris is a tough match up are just doing it to make Pac look good. smh. Dunn get lost already, you still on that fanboy ****.

if anything it makes you look bad cause you trying to purposely ignore facts and are downplaying Chris to make him look like he isn't a tough style match up for Manny.

My question to you Dunn is what if Chris pulls off the upset what will you say?

No Hectari-algieiri isn't a credible threat and I think your posts on the issue are designed to try and justify a fight you know manny will win easy and has no business in.

Its not that I am downplaying facts, I'm just including the ones you left out in your analysis to make a more complete and honest analysis of the fight.

Depends how the fight goes. If he KO's him like buster did Tyson, I will react with shock and surprise. if he does a raheem on morales, I will be shocked but impressed. If he gets a gift like tim did, I will say he lost and that Bob is up to something.

Now if he gets KTFO or loses in a shane like blowout, what will you say?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I think a prime Ivan Calderon would box circles around Pacquiao. He just has the style to do it.

or he could take a knee from all the pressure ala Giovani Segura

[Evol]

dunn, ur a funny guy. u said roach got a chance to see chris first hand like this is gonna make a difference? but yet u didnt care that roach trains ruslan and manny if they were to ever fight eachother. so seeing someone fight first hand is more creditble than actually training a fighter? LOL!!!!