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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostActually, he hated his Guerrero performance and always says that, partially because he knows he can't get away with that against a better aggressor (like Maidana).
I'd be shocked if he is able to move more and maintain it. I believe that while he will move some (and give the impression early on that moving more is his plan), they'll be working on in-fighting, particularly off the ropes as that is the only way he'll be able to damage Maidana's head and body and back him off, possibly even stop him.
Second, he's always criticising his performances. He gave himself a D versus Cotto. He gave himself I believe a C versus Guerrero. He probably gave himself a C+ versus Canelo, or a B at best. He wasn't even that happy after the Mosley fight, talking about he wanted the knockout.
Floyd works on in-fighting regularly in sparring regardless of opponent. It's one of the things that surprises many of his sparring partners. I remember Errol Spence particularly saying that he was surprised by how much Floyd fought him in the pocket. And if you backtrack to the released sparring session between him and Omar Henry, in preparation for Cotto, he fought a lot in the pocket most of the time.
But during fight night, it's anyone's guess how Floyd will play his cards.Last edited by radioraheem; 08-14-2014, 09:16 AM.
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Originally posted by radioraheem View PostYou're talking about arguably the most well conditioned fighter today. It is very believable that he could move an entire fight. Keep in mind, he doesn't get hit with clean body shots much. Doesn't get hit with many shots period.
Second, he's always criticising his performances. He gave himself a D versus Cotto. He gave himself I believe a C versus Guerrero. He probably gave himself a C+ versus Canelo, or a B at best. He wasn't even that happy after the Mosley fight, talking about he wanted the knockout.
Floyd works on in-fighting regularly in sparring regardless of opponent. It's one of the things that surprises many of his sparring partners. I remember Errol Spence particularly saying that he was surprised by how much Floyd fought him in the pocket. And if you backtrack to the released sparring session between him and Omar Henry, in preparation for Cotto, he fought a lot in the pocket most of the time.
But during fight night, it's anyone's guess how Floyd with play his cards.
And of course, Mayweather works on in-fighting regularly, that's not the point. SMH forget it. Let's see if Mayweather boxes around for 12 rounds as you say (why didn't he just do that the first time then?) or not.
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I see al haymon + FMJ = Alot of idiot fans that believe anything floyd says. Reminds me of ***** voters.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostAgree with dazed radioraheem. Floyd went to the ropes IMO because maidana was very effective in the middle of the ring for a lot of the 1st fight. Ghost and Canelo couldn't find Floyd, maidana was able to.
Floyd may stick and move rds 10-12 if he has a substantial lead. But I don't expect to see what we saw in 2013.
Lanceweather is still bluffing but he must go a step further, those specialized dynamic undetectable PED's are calling for JR,,,,,"YOU WANT TO KNOW ME" !
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostHe called Cotto the toughest opponent he ever fought and I don't remember him saying anything like C+ for Canelo and would need a link to verify.
And of course, Mayweather works on in-fighting regularly, that's not the point. SMH forget it. Let's see if Mayweather boxes around for 12 rounds as you say (why didn't he just do that the first time then?) or not.
I believe the first time around, they already prepared for in-fighting. But again, Floyd is sometimes unpredictable with how he'll play his cards. For instance, his father said that Floyd wasn't doing what he wanted him to do or what he had planned. And that he wasn't even fighting Maidana closed-up on the ropes (shell).
Also, I said he 'probably' gave himself a C+ for Canelo, just judging the way he criticises his own fights (Guerrero, Cotto, Mosley, etc), even when it's a shutout.
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Originally posted by radioraheem View PostHonestly, it's anyone's guess how Floyd will fight this time around. I'm just going off certain things his father said. He said they'll have some surprises for Maidana. And that he won't be on the ropes as much as the first fight. But that he wouldn't be moving all the time either.
I believe the first time around, they already prepared for in-fighting. But again, Floyd is sometimes unpredictable with how he'll play his cards. For instance, his father said that Floyd wasn't doing what he wanted him to do or what he had planned. And that he wasn't even fighting Maidana closed-up on the ropes (shell).
Also, I said he 'probably' gave himself a C+ for Canelo, just judging the way he criticises his own fights (Guerrero, Cotto, Mosley, etc), even when it's a shutout.
And he definitely didn't give himself a C+ for the Canelo performance. In fact, all I've heard him say was "I had a good night", "It was my night", etc. He seemed very proud of himself for that performance and rightfully so.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostWell we'll see. I don't believe he can move for a full 12 rounds, you think he will.
And he definitely didn't give himself a C+ for the Canelo performance. In fact, all I've heard him say was "I had a good night", "It was my night", etc. He seemed very proud of himself for that performance and rightfully so.
I don't know if he will move all day for an entire fight. I don't think he will. But if he wanted to, he can totally move all night for an entire fight much like Lara does. He's very well conditioned to do that easily.
But it's anyone's guess how he'll show up on fight night.
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostActually the ODH comparison doesnt make sense. Floyd wanted to use 8 oz, but they were fighting at 154 limit, so 10 oz gloves was the mandatory. here, the NSAC approved the red punchers gloves for use, and mayweather said no. even though his own fighters used them that same night.
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