What does your top 10 HW all time look like?

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  • jas
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    #21
    Originally posted by jri9d0
    I don't disagree with your list at all but many of those aforementioned fighter's won these titles at middleweight lost there titles, lost and re-won within short periods of time.

    Hopkins on the other hand with few exceptions (Jermaine Taylor) ruled the division for an extended period of time becoming Undisputed unifying the whole weight class.
    i wouldnt argue with hopkins being number 1 to be honest, at least he didnt beat women like sugar ray robinson did

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    • Elroy1
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      #22
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      Out of interest, you rank Wladimir #1, but Lennox #1 H2H?

      How does Wlad's achievements supersede Lennox's?
      Wladimir has beaten more decent opponents than Lennox. Fact. Because he's had a much bigger career no doubt.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Luilun
        When you lose to Raghman and Mccall you take the back seat
        Rahman and McCall had a combined record of 58-7, or 29-3,5 per fighter both were in the top 10 of the world at the time of the fight.

        As opposed to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders with a combined ratio of 95-18 or 32-6 per fighter. none were ranked in the top 10 at the time of the fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          Wladimir has beaten more decent opponents than Lennox. Fact. Because he's had a much bigger career no doubt.
          Like who?

          "bigger career"

          Consisting of fighting 255 pound Rahmans in Germany?

          Tremendous feat!

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            #25
            Originally posted by jas
            i wouldnt argue with hopkins being number 1 to be honest, at least he didnt beat women like sugar ray robinson did
            Yeah that elevates his status as a boxer, that's for sure.

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            • Ray Corso
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              #26
              I'm not sure there is a number one talent in the heavy division because the greats are capable of beating each other!
              Here's my list and the order has to do with Methods & Techniques employed!

              1. J. Louis
              2. M. Ali
              3. L. Holmes
              4. J. Johnson
              5. G. Foreman
              6. J. Dempsey
              7. L. Lewis
              8. R. Marciano
              9. S. Liston
              10. R. Bowe

              I believe Ali is the most difficult to defeat. He has his own style that no heavyweight ever employed and at his best his use of lateral movement for offense and defense has never been duplicated. He had the best eye/hand coordination and his foot work was a huge part of his defense & offense.
              No one used their legs the way Ali could.
              All of these men could and would defeat one another because they all were great forces within the sport.
              Ray Corso

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              • jas
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                #27
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                Yeah that elevates his status as a boxer, that's for sure.
                greatness is not only judged on what goes on inside the squared circle.

                e.g. Muhammad Ali as a humanitarian, a leader, a pioneer, an innovator charisma, elevating the popularity of boxing. Ali's contribution outside the ring has elevated his status.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jas
                  greatness is not only judged on what goes on inside the squared circle.

                  e.g. Muhammad Ali as a humanitarian, a leader, a pioneer, an innovator charisma, elevating the popularity of boxing. Ali's contribution outside the ring has elevated his status.
                  To some Ali is a racist, a rebel, a criminal, arrogant, wife-cheater whatever. One man's ********* is another man's freedom fighter.

                  Not to defend Sugar Ray, who as far as I know, probably wasn't the best husband or father.

                  But Bernard Hopkins is a convicted felon as well, isn't he?

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                  • Luilun
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Rahman and McCall had a combined record of 58-7, or 29-3,5 per fighter both were in the top 10 of the world at the time of the fight.

                    As opposed to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders with a combined ratio of 95-18 or 32-6 per fighter. none were ranked in the top 10 at the time of the fight.

                    So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman

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                    • Joeyzagz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Luilun
                      So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman
                      Sanders was Kod by Rahman dude.

                      1. Muhammad Ali
                      2. Joe Louis
                      3. Lennox Lewis
                      4. Rocky Marciano
                      5. George Foreman
                      6. Jack Johnson
                      7. Mike Tyson
                      8. Jack Dempsey
                      9. Evander Holyfield
                      10. Wladimir Klinchsko

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