Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez Eyes Porter vs. Brook Winner

[ADP02]

Memo in his corner or not your troll a$$ would still be screaming roids like the rest of the trolls in this topic so gtfo troll

Sorry bud but I always liked Marquez ..... the Memo incident and his avoidance of Manny though is another story. You gotta call it the way you see it!

[ADP02]

He never failed a test though. And was willing to take any test as long as Pacquiao would also take it, for the 4th fight where he got KO'ed, BUT "su****iously" Manny all of a sudden didn't want to anymore...........hmmmmmmmmm = Manny is on Roids.

Memo Heredia was able to help Olympic athletes with his PEDs. They never got caught either and some went on to win gold medals. This same Memo said that he knows of 20 ways to mask his PEDs so that they are not traced when tested. So if he can, then it doesn't matter even if Marquez does get tested .....


Yes, Marquez never failed a test but how many athletes hire a PEDs dealer and gain muscle mass and starts getting acne all over his body at 40+ do you know of?

Plus neither did other athletes Memo aided fail a test ..... but some went on to win 5 gold medals!!!



Mexican steroid dealer Angel Heredia has told a San Francisco court how he provided sprinter Marion Jones with a triple-c-ocktail of banned substances.

Heredia mailed the blood-booster EPO, growth hormone and insulin to Jones .....

Heredia said he also sold banned substances to Tim Montgomery.

Heredia also told the jury he sold banned substances to Olympic gold medal sprinters Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young and Dennis Mitchell, while Ramon Clay, Duane Ross and Garfield Ellenwood were customers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olym...cs/7408585.stm

[Divine Hammer]

No way the winner of porter vs brook fights Marquez in Mexico and with no extra testing.

You better believe that Marquez will roid like crazy again.

[jose.sooto]

I don't know why you guys are even entertaining the thought of this match up. Bob Arum is not going to let it happen, it's simple as that.

[ErosXero]

Paulie once had power? Hulkquez definitely has power when he takes his PEDs!

Hulkquez?

you think you're clever eh?

You do realize that Marquez has a higher KO% than Pac AND Floyd right?

They don't call him "Dinamita" for nothing. (Dynamite)

Also. To everyone saying Marquez was all roided out bc he looked bigger.

Pacquiao weighed more than Marquez did for their 4th bout by 4 lbs. Muscle is heavy as ****. So....explain that?

[ADP02]

Oh man, not you again.

He was with Heredia for the third fight too you ******, thick ****. No KO. No knockdown.

Combine three factors....Marquez getting robbed in the third fight, Pac going for the KO and being significantly more open, and Marquez deciding to just go for throwing bombs on a very open Pac. If it was just his new found Heredia power, he would have knocked him out in the third fight too.

Now, number 2, you just embarrass yourself. You admit he's not scoring many knockouts, but you just assume that it's because he just hasn't had a chance to test his new power. Well, he has. He's hit everyone he's fought and only knocked Pac out. So you don't actually even know if he has any new power, because he's not actually knocking anyone out, apart from one guy in the last four or five years. You're a smart one aren't you. This all comes down to you just saying he's got new power, despite happily admitting he's not even scoring knockouts? Riiiiiiight.

So he teams up with Heredia, scores significantly less KOs, and despite all evidence to contrary with less KOs since Heredia you just assume and pretend he does have more power, that you just say "well, he just hadn't had a chance to test his new found power because he's getting outboxed more"? He's getting outboxed more by fighters like Pac, Alvarado, Fedchenko, etc? He hit Bradley plenty too, and yet his new found power did a whole lot of absolutely nothing.

You my friend are a ****ing imbecile.

By the way, when you take on a trainer specifically to add muscle to bulk up for a move to 147 and do a lot of weights for it, yes, you're going to add muscle. That's the entire point of his weight training genius. I see a more muscled, bulkier Marquez but not one with more power, speed or stamina.

Besides insulting people, here is your problem.

Marquez had just started working out with Memo prior to fight number 3. The key word is "just started". You ask any athlete, it takes time to get to a certain level with or without the help of PEDs but you probably have no idea about that because you are no athlete but are what you call a key-board warrrior.

I know someone who does take PEDs and some of the side effects. Anyways, he got bigger but it didn't happen in one shot. He still had to do his workouts and got bigger and bigger while his nuts got smaller and smaller. Again, the key is that it happened over time.


Still, in their third fight, it was fought differently. Marquez fought a very controlled fight and boxed more. Both did. So less chance of KOs from either side.


As for your point number 2: You point is a joke because you intentionally avoided my points. Those fighters tried to box Marquez. Marquez has trouble or does not look as good with fighters that are not aggresive fighters. Alvarado fought that fight very cautiously and tried to stay on the outside. He still got ROCKED once he did get hit! After that he was even more cautious! BUT the way Alvarado got rocked, you would think that mini-Tyson was fighting not Marquez!

Others such as Bradley boxed too! At this point in time, Marquez will look worse and worse with certain style of fighters. His age is starting to show. It's so easy to analyze but you go on insulting and being a key-board warrior! Your comments are laughable!


The KO percentage that you speak of should be looked at in the right scope. Go check out the last time Marquez KOed not TKOed someone and what division that was.
Secondly, Marquez had fought Floyd and Manny (at 144) prior to that and didn't show any power at 147. Finally and more importantly, Manny fought Marquez 3 times. Manny was just as aggressive if not more so in the first couple of fights but Manny never got knocked down in 3 fights. Then with a much older Marquez and at the 147 division, Marquez does it twice against Manny?

So thanks for the laugh! Keep your eyes closed to the possibility/su****ion!



Mexican steroid dealer Angel Heredia has told a San Francisco court how he provided sprinter Olympic athlete and gold winner Marion Jones with a triple-c-ocktail of banned substances


Using Memo, he anonymously sent a syringe of the anabolic steroid THG, which had been chemically designed to avoid detection, to the US anti-doping authorities.

Heredia also told the jury he sold banned substances to Olympic gold medal sprinters Antonio Pettigrew, Jerome Young and Dennis Mitchell, while Ramon Clay, Duane Ross and Garfield Ellenwood were customers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olym...cs/7408585.stm




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[ErosXero]

1) but you don't see a different Marquez in there now? It's not the same guy in there ..... much more muscular .....

2) Of late, the guys that he didn't knock down, boxed more. Giving Marquez fewer opportunities to show his new found power.

3) He never knocked down let alone KOed Manny until Memo came into the picture. Then in 1 fight, both knocks Manny down and KOs him.

4) Marquez appears to try anything to get the job done. Even drink his own urine ..... so who knows....

I just wished Marquez didn't get Memo but he did. So this su****ion will always continue.

There are so many things wrong with this post. If you go up in weight, you will look larger. Just saying.

Also. JMM vs Pac IV Everyone was saying Marquez looked huge. They are both 5'7. But Pac weighed 4lbs more. Muscle is heavier than fat. Just saying.

Never knocked down or KO'd Manny? This much is true. But you forget Pacquiao is at the end of his prime/ career now. He only has 3-4 fights left before retirement since he only fights twice a year. The point im making with this statement is that Pac's ability to take a punch has diminished. His punching power has also diminished. Are the two related to the fact that he's willing to take drug testing now? I dont know. But you gotta admit, Malignaggi has a point. "I don't give credit to guys who hide and duck from random drug testing while accomplishing things that seem pretty amazing."

lastly. Marquez trying anything? Drinking urine isn't something only he does. Sadly, many people do it. But he does it because he feels ( i watched an interview) that he is replenishing nutrients that his body lost during work outs. Logically speaking, it makes sense, but he could just as easily drink / eat properly to regain what his body disposed of.

New found power? Marquez has a higher KO rate than Pacquiao and Floyd. Just saying. Pac wants to prove he's clean, so he starts taking OSDT and suddenly his KO power disappears.

[kingzapata02]

when has marquez ever been stopped? lol. this would be a fight for boxing fans of all sorts!!! if poter beats brooks. delahoya will make it happen, if he loves mexico n canelo can be next. marquez top 3 fighter of this generation. marquez was getting ko's before 147 but it took him a year so to fill into the frame n now he beasty wtf. stop hating.

sincerely, pacquiao

p.s braldey would beat anyone a 147- 140-154 besides pac n mayweather

when has marquez ever been stopped? lol. this would be a fight for boxing fans of all sorts!!! if poter beats brooks. delahoya will make it happen, if he loves mexico n canelo can be next. marquez top 3 fighter of this generation. marquez was getting ko's before 147 but it took him a year so to fill into the frame n now he beasty wtf. stop hating.

sincerely, pacquiao

p.s braldey would beat anyone a 147- 140-154 besides pac n mayweather

[ADP02]

There are so many things wrong with this post. If you go up in weight, you will look larger. Just saying.

Also. JMM vs Pac IV Everyone was saying Marquez looked huge. They are both 5'7. But Pac weighed 4lbs more. Muscle is heavier than fat. Just saying.

Never knocked down or KO'd Manny? This much is true. But you forget Pacquiao is at the end of his prime/ career now. He only has 3-4 fights left before retirement since he only fights twice a year. The point im making with this statement is that Pac's ability to take a punch has diminished. His punching power has also diminished. Are the two related to the fact that he's willing to take drug testing now? I dont know. But you gotta admit, Malignaggi has a point. "I don't give credit to guys who hide and duck from random drug testing while accomplishing things that seem pretty amazing."

lastly. Marquez trying anything? Drinking urine isn't something only he does. Sadly, many people do it. But he does it because he feels ( i watched an interview) that he is replenishing nutrients that his body lost during work outs. Logically speaking, it makes sense, but he could just as easily drink / eat properly to regain what his body disposed of.

New found power? Marquez has a higher KO rate than Pacquiao and Floyd. Just saying. Pac wants to prove he's clean, so he starts taking OSDT and suddenly his KO power disappears.

Go check out Marquez in the Floyd fight .... just saying.

In your points, you mention that Manny has diminished without you stating that Marquez is much older than him. So what about Marquez? At 41 he looks like mini-Tyson when he connects. Sorry but that is not the same Marquez of before. Nobody feared his punches .... Alvarado fought so cautiously. Even Bradley, who fought smartly, fought Marquez cautiously.

Remember that Marquez now has Heredia in his corner. Heredia admitted to giving it to Olympic super stars and admitted to being able to mask his PEDs c-ocktails so that they become non-detectable. Again, if you are able to drink urine because he thinks it helps then there is a good possibility that Marquez would go one step further. Why else do you hire Heredia? Who was Heredia before this except for an admitted PEDs dealer?

Its sad but hiring Memo was not good .....

[sterilizer]

Paulie once had power? Hulkquez definitely has power when he takes his PEDs!

"Hulkquez" hahaha. Actually the whole comment is funny and I am a big JMM fan!!!