Recent Espinoza tweet about his mismatches

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • King_
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Aug 2012
    • 8053
    • 329
    • 385
    • 18,528

    #41
    Originally posted by Y0@NN
    That's as ****** as saying Stevenson vs Dawson was (supposed to be) a mismatch because it ended so early. Quillin had a somewhat competitive fight with Konecny but that's because Quillin's not very good.
    Konecny sucks. That was another mismatch lol


    Quillin-Konecny = Golovkin-Adama/Ishida


    What's the difference? HBO didn't buy Adama/Ishida mismatches.

    Comment

    • RlCKY
      Grade 10
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Nov 2009
      • 5492
      • 231
      • 575
      • 12,611

      #42
      Originally posted by King-
      No way what can be true?
      He must've thought that is wilders rumored next opponent, Mike Sheppard. Ranked #305 in boxrec.

      High School Teacher.

      LOL

      http://www.newsandsentinel.com/page/....html?nav=5063
      Last edited by RlCKY; 08-04-2014, 01:47 PM.

      Comment

      • The Big Dunn
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 70332
        • 9,962
        • 8,224
        • 287,568

        #43
        Originally posted by King-
        i don't understand how a fight between two top 5 MW's, when there was no one else available (they tried to make JCC Jr fight, he denied) (inb4 Ward. He obviously wasn't in a position to fight July 25th) is a mismatch?


        It's not Golovkins fault he blew him out in 3 rounds
        Originally posted by King-
        A fight between two top 5 fighters, whether its GGG, Floyd or Wlad is not a mismatch, IMO
        Many people thought this fight would be a blowout and it was. GGG fans responded to what they felt was a criticism by pointing out Gaele's ranking at MW. Both points are true.

        If you don't think top 5 fights are mismatches on paper-ok. A number of posters would disagree with that. Matter of fact-most people think GGG against the lineal MW champion is a mismatch.

        The point is simple-if you hate mismatches-then criticize all of them, not just a select few.

        Comment

        • King_
          Undisputed Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Aug 2012
          • 8053
          • 329
          • 385
          • 18,528

          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Many people thought this fight would be a blowout and it was. GGG fans responded to what they felt was a criticism by pointing out Gaele's ranking at MW. Both points are true.

          If you don't think top 5 fights are mismatches on paper-ok. A number of posters would disagree with that. Matter of fact-most people think GGG against the lineal MW champion is a mismatch.

          The point is simple-if you hate mismatches-then criticize all of them, not just a select few.
          I agree. Personally, I criticize every mismatch


          I just don't think GGG-Geale was a mismatch and I can't criticize Kovalev-Caparello because there is a legit backstory

          Comment

          • Dinamita 03
            Rolin
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Apr 2013
            • 3677
            • 214
            • 178
            • 18,652

            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Many people thought this fight would be a blowout and it was. GGG fans responded to what they felt was a criticism by pointing out Gaele's ranking at MW. Both points are true.

            If you don't think top 5 fights are mismatches on paper-ok. A number of posters would disagree with that. Matter of fact-most people think GGG against the lineal MW champion is a mismatch.

            The point is simple-if you hate mismatches-then criticize all of them, not just a select few.
            Your missing the point , Garcia/Salsa isn't even worthy of being called a mismatch it's a complete joke. I'm beating a dead horse but fighting the 77th ranked lightweight is a joke for the lineal champ at 140, specially when another champ is fighting on the same card against a nobody and there are plenty of other top fighters in your division who are also managed by Al Haymon.

            Hbo hasn't put on anything that even comes remotely close to being as bad as Garcia/Salsa.

            Comment

            • The Big Dunn
              Undisputed Champion
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Sep 2009
              • 70332
              • 9,962
              • 8,224
              • 287,568

              #46
              Originally posted by King-
              I agree. Personally, I criticize every mismatch


              I just don't think GGG-Geale was a mismatch and I can't criticize Kovalev-Caparello because there is a legit backstory
              Kovalev not getting the Adonis fight he wanted doesn't mean he has to take that fight. that is not an excuse. There are other LHW's available and we don't know that Main Events sought them out. Most likely, HBO didn't want to meet bigger names wage (besides guys overseas make far more than Kovalev) or they wouldn't go to AC.

              Besides-you know the deal. Kovalev signed a 3 fight deal with HBO. HBO's history shows that when they sign a name fighter to a multi fight deal, the 1st fight is almost ALWAYS a "showcase" fight. Its no different here.

              Comment

              • King_
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Aug 2012
                • 8053
                • 329
                • 385
                • 18,528

                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Kovalev not getting the Adonis fight he wanted doesn't mean he has to take that fight. that is not an excuse. There are other LHW's available and we don't know that Main Events sought them out. Most likely, HBO didn't want to meet bigger names wage (besides guys overseas make far more than Kovalev) or they wouldn't go to AC.

                Besides-you know the deal. Kovalev signed a 3 fight deal with HBO. HBO's history shows that when they sign a name fighter to a multi fight deal, the 1st fight is almost ALWAYS a "showcase" fight. Its no different here.
                Who was he supposed to fight? Who was available/realistic option that was better then Caparello? Only one I can think of is Chilemba


                I read an article by Duva when the fight was announced and she said that any possible opponent they brought up was rejected. Finally they hesitantly approved Caparello because he just fought on ESPN and was undefeated


                Similar to when Provodnikov fought Bradley and Algieri, Provodnikov. And look where that got them.


                If there is ANY opponent that should be okay to be approved it's a guy who just recently fought on ESPN and is undefeated (when there is a lack of opponents)



                There simply wasn't anyone else

                Comment

                • The Big Dunn
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 70332
                  • 9,962
                  • 8,224
                  • 287,568

                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dinamita 03
                  Your missing the point , Garcia/Salsa isn't even worthy of being called a mismatch it's a complete joke. I'm beating a dead horse but fighting the 77th ranked lightweight is a joke for the lineal champ at 140, specially when another champ is fighting on the same card against a nobody and there are plenty of other top fighters in your division who are also managed by Al Haymon.

                  Hbo hasn't put on anything that even comes remotely close to being as bad as Garcia/Salsa.
                  I understand the point clearly. I agree with everything you said about the Danny fight. He should be fighting Petersen for the JWW lineal and not against salka in a 142 CW fight that isn't for the title.

                  HBO just had as big a mismatch Sat night-the only difference is it was for a title and Caparello is a LHW.

                  Comment

                  • King_
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 8053
                    • 329
                    • 385
                    • 18,528

                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I understand the point clearly. I agree with everything you said about the Danny fight. He should be fighting Petersen for the JWW lineal and not against salka in a 142 CW fight that isn't for the title.

                    HBO just had as big a mismatch Sat night-the only difference is it was for a title and Caparello is a LHW.
                    How the hell was Caparello as bad as Salka?!?



                    You know that's not true! Salka isn't even a 140lber!

                    Comment

                    • The Big Dunn
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 70332
                      • 9,962
                      • 8,224
                      • 287,568

                      #50
                      Originally posted by King-
                      Who was he supposed to fight? Who was available/realistic option that was better then Caparello? Only one I can think of is Chilemba


                      I read an article by Duva when the fight was announced and she said that any possible opponent they brought up was rejected. Finally they hesitantly approved Caparello because he just fought on ESPN and was undefeated


                      Similar to when Provodnikov fought Bradley and Algieri, Provodnikov. And look where that got them.


                      If there is ANY opponent that should be okay to be approved it's a guy who just recently fought on ESPN and is undefeated (when there is a lack of opponents)
                      I don't know who Main Events sought out just that HBO rejected other opposition. HBO has any number of reasons why it will not approve an opponent-(see GGG Mora where HBO rejected Mora not because GGG would lose but because Mora's awkward style would most likely make for an ugly UD win for GGG and not a KO).

                      Come on King-you had no idea who Blake Caparello was, same as Salka. HBO likely approved because there was little danger in Kovalev losing -it is the 1st fight of his deal and a loss wouldn't be so great.

                      Again, the thread topic is mismatches-Kovalev Caparello was just that.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP