Olympic Wrestler vs. Pro Boxer

[sargo]

I thought this was asked only before MMA.

Anyway I think MMA has shown that it is not the style as much as the skill of the fighter. There are champs who are wrestlers (Lesnar, Coleman, Hughes) and those who are strikers (Liddell, Silva, St.Pierre).

[Masters01]

I thought this was asked only before MMA.

Anyway I think MMA has shown that it is not the style as much as the skill of the fighter. There are champs who are wrestlers (Lesnar, Coleman, Hughes) and those who are strikers (Liddell, Silva, St.Pierre).

GSP and Liddell came from Karata, and Silva came from Jui Jitsu. Silva's striking comes from Muay Thai, and of these 3, only Liddell is better with his hands (boxing) than he is with his legs. Talk about painting the wrong picture; dont forget this thread is essentially a boxing v wrestling question.

Anyway, MMA showed that not all martial arts are made even. The arts that work most effectively (what fighter's would NEVER go without training) are BJJ, Muay Thai and Wrestling. Kickboxing, boxing and Judo can also be useful but are in the second tier.

[twrx]

The best mma fighters are those with kick boxing wrestling as their main background .
Wrestling training is some of the most grueling in all combat sports period boxing is an 8 week training camp with really hard training than several months to recoup your body. In wrestling they are constantly training getting beat up . I challenge any boxer here to take one wrestling class before speaking on who would win . I did wrestling for years as well as boxing so I understand the work both require and can speak with experience and not just what I think

[theGr8test]

The best mma fighters are those with kick boxing wrestling as their main background .
Wrestling training is some of the most grueling in all combat sports period boxing is an 8 week training camp with really hard training than several months to recoup your body. In wrestling they are constantly training getting beat up . I challenge any boxer here to take one wrestling class before speaking on who would win . I did wrestling for years as well as boxing so I understand the work both require and can speak with experience and not just what I think

Agreed.

Does anyone know though, a little off topic, how much training Pro Boxers do when a fight isn't scheduled?

[New England]

Agreed.

Does anyone know though, a little off topic, how much training Pro Boxers do when a fight isn't scheduled?

it completely defends on the nature of the fighter's career.

most boxers have day jobs, and probably take fights on very little notice. they'd stay in shape if they were active, and wait for the phone to ring. they'll do whatever they've got to do to prepare and make weight.


top fighters generally train 8-12 weeks, with heavy sparring tapering off before the fight, and no sparring on fight week. they go on "vacation" after they fight. this allows their bodies, hands, and faces to heal. guys who fight thrice a year don't have all that much time to get out of shape.

[Masters01]

The best mma fighters are those with kick boxing wrestling as their main background .
Wrestling training is some of the most grueling in all combat sports period boxing is an 8 week training camp with really hard training than several months to recoup your body. In wrestling they are constantly training getting beat up . I challenge any boxer here to take one wrestling class before speaking on who would win . I did wrestling for years as well as boxing so I understand the work both require and can speak with experience and not just what I think

Muay Thai EASILY over kickboxing, and BJJ over wrestling (though wrestling is super essential to learn at the same time). Everything else i agree with.

[RSBonos]

Muay Thai EASILY over kickboxing, and BJJ over wrestling (though wrestling is super essential to learn at the same time). Everything else i agree with.

I see that you got all shook up, but seriously without coming off as aggressive...you're either a troll or a noob.

Like it was pointed out already it comes down to the athlete, pure style doesn't exist in MMA anymore for the most part.

and yes it bugs me a lot when people say that boxing is not a fight, it's ignorant.

[twrx]

Muay Thai EASILY over kickboxing, and BJJ over wrestling (though wrestling is super essential to learn at the same time). Everything else i agree with.

7/8 current champs come from a wrestling background as aldo is the bjj background.
Boxing is probably the best bet for a wrestler to learn some sort of striking . Guys who start out mainly in bjj have relied on just leverages and technique no unnecessary energy waste so they dont developer explosiveness in their strikes very few have any power. While wrestlers are built to strike and hit hard

[Syf]

I pick boxer...

Olympic wrestlers without any mma cross training wouldn't know how to fight...so.

[Masters01]

I see that you got all shook up, but seriously without coming off as aggressive...you're either a troll or a noob.

Like it was pointed out already it comes down to the athlete, pure style doesn't exist in MMA anymore for the most part.

and yes it bugs me a lot when people say that boxing is not a fight, it's ignorant.

- Also without coming across as aggressive, you come across as somebody with unfavourable genetics traits in intelligence and insight - specifically of sports - but im encouraged that you still endeavour

- I never said pure style existed in MMA nor did I even indirectly imply anything remotely close to that. You literally just made that up, very transparently (back to the intelligence thing).

- I didnt ask you what does or does not bug you. I actually didnt ask you anything; you just keep replying to my posts.