Why Doesn't Freddie Roach Teach Defense?

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  • tangalog2200
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    #71
    Originally posted by BrushMyHair
    But he doesn't teach defense. I don't like freddie roach, but I am not about to say he is the worst trainers in the business.

    Roach is like the Saints or The Green Bay Packers

    Great with Offense, Horrible with Defense. But The Saints improved though.

    I will say it again, I don't like Freddie Roach, But he is a good offensive mind.

    But In my POV, to be the best trainer, You have to be good at both, Not just one.
    "But he doesn't teach defense."

    not defending roach on this but a fighter could get careless/reckless for whatever reason and it is not fair to always put the blame on the coach...pac got too carried away in his push to put jmm down for good and he paid the bill so to speak...

    floyd sr is one of the best defense guru but you know what happened to poor ricky

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      #72
      Originally posted by BrushMyHair
      He does have a good defense, He just needs to hit back more and move his feet around.
      Hahaha. Broner has worse defence that Khan and Manny combined. He's cement-footed and doesnt believe in footwork. Broner be getting smacked in the mouth by undersized midgets like Gavin Rees and a severely past-prime Paulie Malignagni (who Khan obliterated).

      Roach teaches defence in the same way that Virgil and Mayweather Snr teach offence.
      Last edited by Masters01; 07-29-2014, 08:46 PM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by tangalog2200
        "But he doesn't teach defense."

        not defending roach on this but a fighter could get careless/reckless for whatever reason and it is not fair to always put the blame on the coach...pac got too carried away in his push to put jmm down for good and he paid the bill so to speak...

        floyd sr is one of the best defense guru but you know what happened to poor ricky
        Ricky was armed with that Mayweather Snr style defence. Too bad it couldnt stand up to a Roach style offence not even for 2 rounds.

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          #74
          Originally posted by BrushMyHair
          No he doesn't. If he taught Defense, Pacquiao and Khan would not have been Knocked out. But I am glad they did get knocked out because I don't Like iither of them
          Where was Broner's defense against Maidana? Who's been slacking off on the job there?

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          • Strategic1
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            #75
            He does cover defence otherwise he wouldn't have had the success he's had.

            But either way, if a fighter wants $$$ fights, it's in his best interest to become offensively exciting.

            So in a sense, Roach trains guys to be TV or PPV friendly boxers. If a boxer wants money, it's good to learn a thing or two from Roach.

            Floyd jr. is a rare case of being a PPV draw with a style that's not particularly exciting. It's quite a rarity. The man rarely knocks guys out (Ortiz doesn't count), and his style isn't particularly explosive.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              waits for flo mo to google archie moore, cus damato, ken norton and floyd patterson.
              lolol, that was pretty funny

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                #77
                Originally posted by BrushMyHair
                No he doesn't. If he taught Defense, Pacquiao and Khan would not have been Knocked out. But I am glad they did get knocked out because I don't Like iither of them
                Getting Knocked out is not only because of poor defense, it happen also because how good your opponent offense are.

                khan and pacman is offensive-minded boxer, you always have a defensive hole if you that offensive.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Since 1985
                  Do the names Singsurat and Torrecampo ring a bell?
                  :hihi:

                  singsurat and torrecampo is before roach

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Masters01
                    Hahaha. Broner has worse defence that Khan and Manny combined. He's cement-footed and doesnt believe in footwork. Broner be getting smacked in the mouth by undersized midgets like Gavin Rees and a severely past-prime Paulie Malignagni (who Khan obliterated).

                    Roach teaches defence in the same way that Virgil and Mayweather Snr teach offence.
                    Khans defense with roach was the absolute worst defense ever. Khan looked like klitschko while fighting collazo. Khan bored me like crazy in his last fight. Feather fisted Julio diaz knocked him down.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BrushMyHair
                      No he doesn't. If he taught Defense, Pacquiao and Khan would not have been Knocked out. But I am glad they did get knocked out because I don't Like iither of them
                      Floydiot? Can I call you a floydiot? because seems like you throw your intelligence when it comes to Floyd and happy to be an idiot time after time. Broner has defense just like your coward boy but guess what? Maidana owned his ass just like your coward boy. Now your puzzy boy is collecting every possible advantages against Maidana so he can save his stinky ass you like to lick this time around.
                      Last edited by straightleft; 07-29-2014, 11:33 PM.

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