Does it upset Floyd haters knowing that Ali was just as hated as he was at the time?

[chaos]

Yep. Floyd's rep has taken huge hits in 2014. He took over Broner's role as the butt of every joke. But it's almost as though they thrive under the embarrassment. Broner getting pounded on, falling off motorcycles on camera every other weekend , Floyd posting pics online of his small penis, getting rejected by hideous little girls on the red carpet. They seem to love it.

If only it was a motorcycle, the jack@ss fell off a scooter. And as if there weren't enough reasons to dislike him, Floyd has bieber in his corner. The three of them can go **** themselves and each other.

[damned1974]

You're one of the few who thinks he "retired" for any reason other than to duck certain fighters. He's a punk who's become the laughing stock of the sport, nothing to get frustrated about.

Retired, taken an extended leave-whatever-the point is,if you can afford to take a 2 year holiday away from work (which doesn't involve grueling training camps, sparring, etc-not to mention the business aspect of the sport) then you cannot say you wouldn't want to.

Would I prefer to watch him against Margarito, Cotto, Williams-yes-but look at the other fights the guy gave the boxing world-there is only a very select handful of fighters who have fought everyone when it didn't make the most business sense.

In the end, Floyd fought Cotto while he was still decent and just beat Canelo. He had a tough fight with Maidana and gave the guy a rematch-it's not like he is fighting some guys who haven't earned it in some way or another.

All in all, with a resume that has Hernandez, Corrales, Oscar, Mosely, Cotto, Maidana, Guerrero, Canelo, Hatton, Castillo, etc-that's not that bad of a career-maybe not the best in history,but not too shabby. Perhaps the armchair critics here have done more to earn their place of being overly critical?

[damned1974]

Now that I have posted about Floyd, what I liked about Ali was not only did he face some of the biggest punchers and great names-he also continued his career fighting guys making names for themselves-he put himself at a disadvantage while his speed and ability had eroded to the point of no return.
Ali was more than a champ in the ring-his life was a great story to the world.

Though Ali was judged incorrectly through the flaws of our society, Mayweather has been judged because of his deliberate and unheroic crimes-big difference.

I think when Floyd is done with boxing,in several years he will be noted for his talent and solid resume. His career hasn't been half as bad as some of the people here make it out to be...it's been pretty great actually.

[MisterHardtop]

Ali was the most beloved figure in sports during the 1970s. The hate shown towards him was largely due to his refusal to be drafted in the United States army, even for exhibition bouts, which was all that was required of him at the time. He did not want to represent an organisation which he believed was killing innocent people, race being a major factor in the war.

Ali was never hated for his boxing or accomplishments and he was very rarely hated as a person, simply because he was such a warm individual. Yes, his in ring persona was that of a braggart but he was far more than that outside of the ring, he didn't try and be a thug, he didn't flaunt his wealth in front of every and anyone and he was always welcoming to his fans, even as an older man with PD, he would stand for God knows how long, just signing autographs. That was the measure of the man, Floyd Mayweather, for all his braggadocio, does not even come close.

[chaos]

Retired, taken an extended leave-whatever-the point is,if you can afford to take a 2 year holiday away from work (which doesn't involve grueling training camps, sparring, etc-not to mention the business aspect of the sport) then you cannot say you wouldn't want to.

Would I prefer to watch him against Margarito, Cotto, Williams-yes-but look at the other fights the guy gave the boxing world-there is only a very select handful of fighters who have fought everyone when it didn't make the most business sense.

In the end, Floyd fought Cotto while he was still decent and just beat Canelo. He had a tough fight with Maidana and gave the guy a rematch-it's not like he is fighting some guys who haven't earned it in some way or another.

All in all, with a resume that has Hernandez, Corrales, Oscar, Mosely, Cotto, Maidana, Guerrero, Canelo, Hatton, Castillo, etc-that's not that bad of a career-maybe not the best in history,but not too shabby. Perhaps the armchair critics here have done more to earn their place of being overly critical?

The list of fighters he ducked completely or in their prime is more impressive than one you made.

[Jc8804]

The difference is that Ali fought the fights that boxing/fans wanted to see the majority of the times compared to Floyd.

Not just that, but he was willing to lose to prove he was the best. He lost fraizer 1 clearly.
Floyd cant lose to pac GGG or at the time martinez. He avoids super fights . Ali made them and lost his first. And beat foreman as an underdog . Rematched his first super figh.

[straightleft]

I see a lot of similarities on folks hating Ali and Floyd... The irony is that Ali was beloved in the philippines when he got a lot of hate from folks in the u.s.

Ali retired to protest the war the u.s. tried to get him to join...

Floyd retired when the Welters were going to war with each other and the u.s. fans wanted to get him to join in...

Ali went to jail in protest of u.s. politics...

Floyd went to jail for spousal abuse and claimed he was victim of local politicians grandstanding.

Ali was an Olympic Gold medalist.....

Floyd was also an Olympic medalist....

Ali beat top guys while out of his prime.....

Floyd beat guys who were out of their prime....

Ali fought his biggest challenge 3 times.....

Floyd let his biggest challenge get laid out fighting someone else 4 times....

Ali cheated on his women...

Floyd's women cheat on him....

Ali is called the TBE

Floyd and his entourage wears TBE clothing...


To BE Continued

This is so true.

[damned1974]

The list of fighters he ducked completely or in their prime is more impressive than one you made.

Glad to see you honed in on a very small section of what I wrote. His career isn't bad at all-you make it sound as if it is....keep it level.

[gamefrk]

The ONLY reason Ali was hated on was because he refused to go fight in the Vietnam war.

I see a lot of similarities on folks hating Ali and Floyd... The irony is that Ali was beloved in the philippines when he got a lot of hate from folks in the u.s.

Ali retired to protest the war the u.s. tried to get him to join...

Floyd retired when the Welters were going to war with each other and the u.s. fans wanted to get him to join in...

Ali went to jail in protest of u.s. politics...

Floyd went to jail for spousal abuse and claimed he was victim of local politicians grandstanding.

Ali was an Olympic Gold medalist.....

Floyd was also an Olympic medalist....

Ali beat top guys while out of his prime.....

Floyd beat guys who were out of their prime....

Ali fought his biggest challenge 3 times.....

Floyd let his biggest challenge get laid out fighting someone else 4 times....

Ali cheated on his women...

Floyd's women cheat on him....

Ali is called the TBE

Floyd and his entourage wears TBE clothing...


To BE Continued

This post summaries everything...it would have been more complete with the glove-gate, still waiting for the to be continued part...

[Tyler_Durden]

Ali was not hated for being a ducking, cherry picking, coward that makes up his own rules like Mayweather. Op please do yourself and everyone else on this forum a favor and slap yourself.

Oh and by the way, there's no doubt that Ali was a great fighter but the fact that he self proclaimed to be the greatest ever does not make it so.