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  • #51
    Originally posted by drenlou View Post
    Cmon man lets get real, miranda pre pavlik was just as hyped as ggg is now..he was destroying guys left and right why wouldnt i believe that beast could beat ggg, or at least give him the toughest fight out of his career up to this date... obviously we can only speculate who would win a fight between the 2 but dont act like ggg is god or something.
    Miranda was both less proven and clearly not as good. He's got really basic skills, not surprising given the lack of any amateur pedigree much less elite kind like Golovkin

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      Miranda couldn't beat Abraham.. He had some hype at the time, but ggg is much more proven than Miranda ever was..

      Miranda's whole career is based off own fight vs Abraham, on in which he didn't even win, and a bunch of highlight reel ko's of espn caliber fighters, much like how Stevens is doing now
      Allan green is better then anyone on ggg record, sad but true.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        Miranda was both less proven and clearly not as good. He's got really basic skills, not surprising given the lack of any amateur pedigree much less elite kind like Golovkin
        You think ggg is elite without fighting 1 top name? And iam talking someone with a name that could launch him into superstartom, not the maklins and geals of the world who nobody realy knows besides hardcore fans.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Miranda was both less proven and clearly not as good. He's got really basic skills, *****not surprising given the lack of any amateur pedigree much less elite kind like Golovkin)))))
          Misunderstood your last line there, appologies.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by drenlou View Post
            You think ggg is elite without fighting 1 top name? And iam talking someone with a name that could launch him into superstartom, not the maklins and geals of the world who nobody realy knows besides hardcore fans.
            I said elite amateur pedigree. As for his pro rating, I'd still not have him top 10 p4p for lack of top level wins, but most insiders seem to disagree

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            • #56
              Originally posted by drenlou View Post
              Allan green is better then anyone on ggg record, sad but true.
              That was way after his mw run.. And Allan green is just the same as geale and macklin and Stevens,

              All Allan green ever did was blowout and break the neck of jaidon codrington years ago on shobox.. I don't see how you can say he is better than rosado, macklin, Stevens, geale

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              • #57
                Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                Allan green is better then anyone on ggg record, sad but true.
                Maybe, but it's not really clear since he's never scored a top 20 win unlike several GGG opponents.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                  Misunderstood your last line there, appologies.
                  Np man. I often disagree with you, but I can tell you're far from a windup troll. You'll come around to GGG I think

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                  • #59
                    Better than PRIME ROY JONES JR?!?

                    Hahaha. Yeah no.

                    Not better than Hopkins, nor Hagler, nor Hearns, nor Leonard.

                    Shaw is losing his mind.

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                    • #60
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLaNwWP95jA

                      I'm not on the bandwagon or anything cause I remember Ouma giving Golovkin a hard time back in Panama a few years back and he was a natural 154 pounder, Rosado did some work too and hes a 154 as well but one thing is for sure at 160 Golovkin does have solid power he KOed Bute in the Amateurs with 1 punch and he has a good amount of boxing experience in general so he is not only a good puncher but he knows how to box and I think in a few years he will have acquired a good resume. To call him the greatest middleweight ever Gary Shaw is ******ed, I understand its not his fault no one really wants to fight him but hes still unproven P4P. James Toney, RJJ, Hopkins are all P4P proven and multiple division champs that all had success at middleweight and way better resumes.

                      Middleweight is not as stacked as it used to be, the only good fight is Quillin but judging from his last few fights I think GGG could take him with ease although if Cotto vacates I wouldn't mind seeing Golovkin unify with Rubio everyone will say its a bum fight but at least Rubio will come to fight don't forget he took another power punchers 0 as well and has shown a good chin at middleweight. We will truly find out what Gennady has when he goes up in weight like all the other great middleweights did.

                      As far as Miranda vs GGG lol I mean I am still a big fan of Pantera he is a warrior and he always came to fight, but at 160 he was a crude Colombian brawler that had a nasty right hand and a lot of determination but not much technical skills. GGG had a great amateur pedigree and beat many top professional contenders along the way, he would counter Miranda and put him on his back quicker than Bute did and thats just real talk.

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