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  • #81
    Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
    Toney wasn't consistent enough at 160. Got to favor GGG to swarm and punish that body. Lol at the Toney fanboys... he had plenty of trouble against lesser competition.


    WTF?

    GGG to swarm and punish that body? What the **** in **** are you talking about? At least watch either guy here before being talking such ****.

    GGG doesn't swarm. He fights at a composed, methodical pace of good pressure, measures his shots and tries to make what he does count with power more than just swarm. He tends to wing his shots and gets wide in close and when he's trying to go for it. He's a typical medium range power puncher. Not remotely a swarmer.

    Everything that GGG's style does was Toney's bread and butter. That was when he consistently looked like one of the greatest fighters in history P4P. He was significantly faster, impossible to hurt and knock out, would counter absolutely everything GGG threw wide, would negate his right hand with his own counter right, and he was as hard to hit with the left to the body as Floyd is today.

    GGG has nothing in his style to trouble a prime Toney. Nothing. Power doesn't work. A 70+ fight from 160-200+ pounds has proven that. A solid, medium pressure fighter that tended to wing shots and very much relied on his power was Toney's dream fight.

    But, keep being pathetically daft in falling for the hype. It's hilarious.

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    • #82
      Right now toney schools him but this guy is still developing so I will see how he handles stiffer opposition

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      • #83
        Originally posted by djtmal View Post
        Right now toney schools him but this guy is still developing so I will see how he handles stiffer opposition
        Dude is what, 31, 32? I think what you see is what you get.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by BennyST View Post


          WTF?

          GGG to swarm and punish that body? What the **** in **** are you talking about? At least watch either guy here before being talking such ****.

          GGG doesn't swarm. He fights at a composed, methodical pace of good pressure, measures his shots and tries to make what he does count with power more than just swarm. He tends to wing his shots and gets wide in close and when he's trying to go for it. He's a typical medium range power puncher. Not remotely a swarmer.

          Everything that GGG's style does was Toney's bread and butter. That was when he consistently looked like one of the greatest fighters in history P4P. He was significantly faster, impossible to hurt and knock out, would counter absolutely everything GGG threw wide, would negate his right hand with his own counter right, and he was as hard to hit with the left to the body as Floyd is today.

          GGG has nothing in his style to trouble a prime Toney. Nothing. Power doesn't work. A 70+ fight from 160-200+ pounds has proven that. A solid, medium pressure fighter that tended to wing shots and very much relied on his power was Toney's dream fight.

          But, keep being pathetically daft in falling for the hype. It's hilarious.
          You really have to wonder if Toney has the best chin ever, or at least top 5 or so. Is there anyone definitively harder to stop than James Toney?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            You really have to wonder if Toney has the best chin ever, or at least top 5 or so. Is there anyone definitively harder to stop than James Toney?
            Took flush shots from Holyfield, Peter...a former middleweight. Just impressive. Another thing that rarely gets mentioned is that I don't recall Toney ever low blowing or rabbit punching or any other illegal maneuver ever.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Dude is what, 31, 32? I think what you see is what you get.
              Thats possible...we will see soon I presume

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              • #87
                My fave boxer ever would destroy ggg!!!!!!!!! Yes!!!!!

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                • #88
                  Hahahaha, I love how only one GGG radical fan came in here to defend their man. Glad the rest of them know whats up.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                    You really have to wonder if Toney has the best chin ever, or at least top 5 or so. Is there anyone definitively harder to stop than James Toney?
                    i think its top 5 of all time. he has what, close to 90 fights? and never been stopped. his 3 "knockdowns" are controversial as well

                    sam peter stepped on his foot and caused him to fall, roy jones kind of caught him off balance and made him stumble back. reggie johnson legitimately dropped him but it was more of a flash KD and toney got right up and went back to work

                    thats the only LEGIT knockdown of toneys 90 fight career. keep in mind he fought at heavy weight and didnt get hurt there. yet somehow GGG is going to knock him out?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by One more round View Post
                      No one said anywhere that toney was untouchable. But like sugar Adam said you don't understand the concept of fighting to the level of your opponent. Toney ate punchers up. Golovkin wasn't finding the mark every time against geale. How do you expect he would be hitting toney easily.
                      Geale uses his head and legs. Toney mainly uses upper body movement, much less leg work than Geale. People acting like GGG wouldn't land on Toney are dreaming. GGG has a great jab and excellent accuracy when he doesn't load up. Toney would take punishment, win or lose. GGG isn't some ordinary fighter with average skill and a punch.

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