GGG versus James Toney at 160 both prime

[Foreign Soil]

Lol no. Toney isn't the monster you make him out to be. If he was, he wouldn't have needed gifts against subpar competition and favorable decisions against tough competition. It doesn't add up anywhere you dissect it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lol no. Toney isn't the monster you make him out to be. If he was, he wouldn't have needed gifts against subpar competition and favorable decisions against tough competition. It doesn't add up anywhere you dissect it.

What don't you get about a fighter that fights to the level of competition.. Lots of great fighters have done it over the years..

Toney in his best night vs ggg on his best night.. It's clearly a toney victory..

You clearly don't realize how gifted toney was... Let's see ggg ove up to 168, or 175, or cruiser, or even heavyweight.. You think ggg could tangle with peter and Holyfield and Rahman
If you don't think toney was a monster, then I don't think you know much about James toney, especially his early years

[Suckmedry]

Toney always rose to the occasion vs a guy of GGG's calibre and he was a master at handling punchers. I pick toney to out point him or possibly stop him we haven't seen golovkins chin truly tested yet.

[therealpugilist]

Lol no. Toney isn't the monster you make him out to be. If he was, he wouldn't have needed gifts against subpar competition and favorable decisions against tough competition. It doesn't add up anywhere you dissect it.

Has GGG ever fought anyone as slick as Toney? No

Has Toney beat anyone that hits as hard and Accurate as GGG? Yes


Has GGG defeated anyone that hit as hard and accurate as Toney? No


Simply put...Toney is a proven commodity, and fought in a deeper era

GGG has a lot of questions to answer...until then I cant see how he could deal with an all-around fighter like Toney in his prime.

Not only that Toney is a better inside fighter than GGG and thats GGGs forte. Uphill battle

[Foreign Soil]

Toney was proven in that he needed gifts to keep his record intact. Excellent fighter, but please stop acting as if he were untouchable, when it clearly wasn't the case.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Toney was proven in that he needed gifts to keep his record intact. Excellent fighter, but please stop acting as if he were untouchable, when it clearly wasn't the case.

It sounds like you didn't watch boxing when toney was at mw, and your just going off the boxrec..

And I don't think you fully understand the concept of fighting down to the level competition

[therealpugilist]

Toney was proven in that he needed gifts to keep his record intact. Excellent fighter, but please stop acting as if he were untouchable, when it clearly wasn't the case.

He wasnt untouchable but lets not act like GGG is steamrolling great fighters.

What do you think Toney would have done against the guys GGG has fought so far?


Compare their quality of opposition.

Put GGG in with the guys Toney fought at 160 and a gaurantee that mediocre kayo streak would get stopped in its tracks.

At 160 Toney fought
Mike McCallum twice, Reggie Johnson, Michael Nunn and tough contenders like Glenn Wolfe, Merqui Sosa, and Doug DeWitt

GGG aint skating by those guys with all ko wins or undefeated

[Foreign Soil]

Toney would probably need a corrupt decision to beat someone like Geale, since he fought down to his competition.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Toney would probably need a corrupt decision to beat someone like Geale, since he fought down to his competition.

Lol,, whatever dude,,, toney really only had the questionable Tiberi decision.. That's the only fight I recall that he got a gift.. He had some close fights but like others have said, he fought a bunch of top level guys.. None were really robberies that I recall except for the Tiberi fight, which in all honesty it wasn't that big of a deal and kinda got overblown.. Toney just toyed with that dude but wasn't really active and just laid in the ropes launching huge counters,Tiberi would just keep coming like he hopped up on pcp..

[Foreign Soil]

So which is it? Does Toney lose to GGG or Geale? He can't beat both.