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  • Divine Hammer
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    #41
    Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
    They have an inflated perception of what Canelo really is. Canelo really isn't all that.
    agreed. they see canelo push around junior welterweights like lopez and all of a sudden in their eyes canelo is the biggest puncher in the world.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
      Golovkin's power isn't in question, he's arguably P4P the hardest puncher in the sport. Only person raising that question here is you, I'm simply saying it's important to note what kind of effects Canelo's early assault would have on Golovkin, as he's the likeliest to test that theory first. Maybe Golovkin has seen better punchers, maybe he hasn't but it's entirely different when that power is thrown in combinations.

      This has become a useless back and forth, you refuse to see that Canelo's power brought on the negativity Lara displayed and killed Angulo's spirit. You can keep questioning it though, I've seen that happen time and time again. I just know Golovkin will give Canelo all the counter punching opportunities needed to answer what I'm looking for.
      I am a big Canelo fan but Canelo hasn't been dazzling with accuracy as of late. Look at his fights against Trout, Lara and Floyd and his punch accuracy wasn't there. He missed a LOT!

      To be honest with you - GGG's jab and knowledge of distance and timing will be too much of a hurdle for Canelo.

      Canelo's fights against Angulo and Shane are not indicative of how he would fare against GGG because neither of these two has a good jab, not even Shane in his prime. They are small and light hitters compared to GGG and again they don't have the sense of timing and space.

      Can I see Canelo giving GGG fits and possibly winning, it's not inconceivable. He needs to show much better accuracy though and be more consistent.

      I can't pick an inconsistent fighter over a fighter that's been consistent. We don't even know what boxing style Canelo will use for his next fight.
      Last edited by pesticid; 07-27-2014, 09:31 AM.

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      • Mister Wolf
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        #43
        Golovkin is the reason Canelo spouts off bull**** like he plans to fight his whole career at 154 even though the clowns last two fights were at a catchweight since he's outgrown the weight class. I think he's a decent fighter but when i read that quote he lost me as a potential supporter.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
          The post I'm responding to man
          Oh ok, i got the idea that Canelo's supposed affect on Lara would translate to Golovkin too, if this isnt the case then my bad my friend

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          • CatchAndShoot
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            #45
            Originally posted by Divine Hammer
            agreed. they see canelo push around junior welterweights like lopez and all of a sudden in their eyes canelo is the biggest puncher in the world.
            Canelo fan: "He's George Foreman in a JMW's body."

            Me: "He's a MW pretending to be a JMW, pretending to have George Foreman's power."

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            • Divine Hammer
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              #46
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Not oblivious to how well he took those punches too, he answered a lot of questions that night but those punches landed too far in between. Canelo is far more skilled than Stevens, faster on the trigger.

              Also, people are getting the wrong idea on power, I'm not saying it's a necessity for Canelo to hurt or drop Golovkin, if his punches are strong enough that Golovkin is visibly slowing down because of it, more conservative as well...that's good enough as it is.
              if anyone is known to slow down it's canelo hahahahahaha. canelo can throw those pretty looking 3 or 4 punch combinations (not all of them land) and in the process gas himself out like he usually does, that will only make it a lot more easier for golovkin to get the KO.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #47
                Originally posted by pesticid
                I am a big Canelo fan but Canelo hasn't been dazzling with accuracy as of late. Look at his fights against Trout, Lara and Floyd and his punch accuracy wasn't there. He missed a LOT!

                To be honest with you - GGG's jab and knowledge of distance and timing will be too much of a hurdle for Canelo.

                Canelo's fights against Angulo and Shane are not indicative of how he would fare against GGG because neither of these two has a good jab, not even Shane in his prime. They are small and light hitters compared to GGG and again they don't have the sense of timing and space.

                Can I see Canelo giving GGG fits and possibly winning, it's not inconceivable. He needs to show much better accuracy though and be more consistent.

                I can't pick an inconsistent fighter over a fighter that's been consistent. We don't even know what boxing style Canelo will use for his next fight.
                I'm a fan of both, no I don't think that Canelo's success against those who stood in front of him will be similar to what I imagine is conceivable against Golovkin. Not one bit, again I know what Golovkin is capable of, I've noted how well he utilizes his jab just as well as anyone. The bold is where I stand as well.

                Again, I'm VERY interested in seeing how Golovkin deals with an opponent who's gonna stand in with him, smother him at times and work his combinations up close.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                  Golovkin is the reason Canelo spouts off bull**** like he plans to fight his whole career at 154 even though the clowns last two fights were at a catchweight since he's outgrown the weight class. I think he's a decent fighter but when i read that quote he lost me as a potential supporter.


                  agreed. every fighter at 160 and below thinks long and hard about what golovkin will do to his career.

                  he doesn't just give guys losses, he beats their asses and ruins their confidence.

                  if your chin is good enough to get you through some rounds you'll end up in the f#cking hospital.

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                  • Divine Hammer
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
                    Canelo fan: "He's George Foreman in a JMW's body."

                    Me: "He's a MW pretending to be a JMW, pretending to have George Foreman's power."
                    hahahahahaha well put.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                      I'm a fan of both, no I don't think that Canelo's success against those who stood in front of him will be similar to what I imagine is conceivable against Golovkin. Not one bit, again I know what Golovkin is capable of, I've noted how well he utilizes his jab just as well as anyone. The bold is where I stand as well.

                      Again, I'm VERY interested in seeing how Golovkin deals with an opponent who's gonna stand in with him, smother him at times and work his combinations up close.


                      that was clearly the gameplan for stevens. they end up eating shots in exchanges and backing up. that's if they can keep form getting backed up by the jab.

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