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You're comparing greats to the typical heavyweight. I'm comparing the majority of HWs who don't happen to be greats.
Between the majority of heavies from the past to today, no big difference apart from other places of the world evolving in this sport.
Oh and Frazier isn't that great.Last edited by Mr.Fantastic; 07-26-2014, 09:34 PM.Comment
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I'm comparing top American heavys of today vs top american heavy of past generations.. Forget greats, just look at the recent American heavy from present day to past erasYou're comparing greats to the typical heavyweight. I'm comparing the majority of HWs who don't happen to be greats.
Between the majority of heavies from the past to today, no big difference apart from other places of the world evolving in this sport.
Oh and Frazier isn't that great.
60s Ali, Liston, Frazier
70s Ali, Frazier, foreman, norton
80s Holmes, spinks, Tyson
90s Holyfield, bowe Tyson, mercer, moorer, Morrison,
Now for the modern day
00s Byrd, Brock, toney
10s wilder, Mitchell, Thompson, arreola..
Now you tell me, is America making the same caliber heavy and other countries are just better, or is America producing subpar heavys..
It's pretty plain to seeComment
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I'm comparing top American heavys of today vs top american heavy of past generations.. Forget greats, just look at the recent American heavy from present day to past eras
60s Ali, Liston, Frazier
70s Ali, Frazier, foreman, norton
80s Holmes, spinks, Tyson
90s Holyfield, bowe Tyson, mercer, moorer, Morrison,
Now for the modern day
00s Byrd, Brock, toney
10s wilder, Mitchell, Thompson, arreola..
Now you tell me, is America making the same caliber heavy and other countries are just better, or is America producing subpar heavys..
It's pretty plain to see
No you're not. How you think those greats got to be great? By fighting several regular/good boxers. They didn't beat a great in every fight. You are doing a wrong analysis. I'm pretty sure if the Klitschkos didn't exist, there would a huge percentage increase in a boxer from the western world to be great. Quit being sour g****s that a boxer from some other part of the world is being great while we're here waving the white flag.Comment
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Dude I could careless who is the champ or what country he is from.. This isn't a knock on the klitchkos. It's merely a fact that America is producing subpar heavys then they did in the past.. It's not sour g****s it's a fact..No you're not. How you think those greats got to be great? By fighting several regular/good boxers. They didn't beat a great in every fight. You are doing a wrong analysis. I'm pretty sure if the Klitschkos didn't exist, there would a huge percentage increase in a boxer from the western world to be great. Quit being sour g****s that a boxer from some other part of the world is being great while we're here waving the white flag.Comment
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It's not a true proven fact. You can find some data and twist it to your argument, but just know there is also data to counter it.
And like I said, they didn't have the chance to be great cause they were greater/better boxers from other parts of the world that didn't allow them to. I like how you're twisting it and just mention the greats. Go watch some more heavyweight fights that doesn't include those greats, you'd see what I mean.Comment
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