Why no one dares to imitate Manny Pacquiao?!

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  • RlCKY
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    #41
    Because what he does in the ring, he is fortunate to be bailed out by his speed and agility.

    You can time his style, and catch that style off balance and land counters.

    With out his physical attributes, that fighting style isn't akin to being conscious after 36 minutes.

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      #42
      Originally posted by RlCKY
      Because what he does in the ring, he is fortunate to be bailed out by his speed and agility.

      You can time his style, and catch that style off balance and land counters.

      With out his physical attributes, that fighting style isn't akin to being conscious after 36 minutes.
      You can land counters on any offensive fighters. Think of the most legendary offensive fighters and you will see that they are all susceptible to counters, because in boxing, when one guy punches, he is ALWAYS open for the counter. This is why everybody gets hit, but because offensive fighters are being more offensive, they are more susceptible than non-offensive fighters.

      Manny is very difficult to land on considering this.

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      • megas30
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        #43
        Manny style is not copied because it is everything you are trained not to do in the gym. Manny just goes in the ring and fight(attack, reset, and attack again....do it real quick and often). You need serious stamina for this.He doesn't set up punches. His footwork is just bouncing on his strong legs, and throws awkward punches. In all honesty, a little observation of Manny will (not nuthugging) will tell you he doesn't even throw punches the conventional way. I once saw him crosses his arms throwing combos.

        But, here is the ticker-these are all his strengths.This is what poses a challenge for his oopponents. He's hard to read and doesn't follow conventional boxing. Also, his strengths become his weakness against schooled fighter with a good jab, timing, control of distance, and decent speed. Freddie once said he doesn't like the Mayweather fight for Manny because Floyd is quick enough to catch Manny coming in and out. Martinez used similar style before his knees went out, because he too wasn't a school fighter, and had the same issue with technical fighters. So,yeah, to fight like Pac is really to throw boxing fundamentals out the ring.

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        • Evol
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          #44
          Originally posted by megas30
          Manny style is not copied because it is everything you are trained not to do in the gym. Manny just goes in the ring and fight(attack, reset, and attack again....do it real quick and often). You need serious stamina for this.He doesn't set up punches. His footwork is just bouncing on his strong legs, and throws awkward punches. In all honesty, a little observation of Manny will (not nuthugging) will tell you he doesn't even throw punches the conventional way. I once saw him crosses his arms throwing combos.

          But, here is the ticker-these are all his strengths.This is what poses a challenge for his oopponents. He's hard to read and doesn't follow conventional boxing. Also, his strengths become his weakness against schooled fighter with a good jab, timing, control of distance, and decent speed. Freddie once said he doesn't like the Mayweather fight for Manny because Floyd is quick enough to catch Manny coming in and out. Martinez used similar style before his knees went out, because he too wasn't a school fighter, and had the same issue with technical fighters. So,yeah, to fight like Pac is really to throw boxing fundamentals out the ring.
          lol at pac doesnt set up his shots. so how does he lands his usual jab jab left like always LOL. because of pac's way of fighting (always on the attack) it makes people think he doesnt have a plan. but after the fight manny always tell his strategy and what he was trying to do. pac is more crafty than what we think.

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            #45
            Originally posted by KingTito
            Fighter's don't copy because they just aren't capable. Manny is a special athlete. It's quite simple. He can fight like that because he has the tools and athleticism to do so. Someone mentioned earlier, he has everything physically and mentally. His movement, angles and footwork are just insane which is the foundation for him. He's a special fighter.
            He really is.

            Southpaw, great wheels, ferocity, and absolutely blazing hands.

            I've been watching more of Manny during his 126-ish days lately. Dude was a marvel.

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            • boxinggod101
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              #46
              Originally posted by TMTForever
              you beat me to it..manny doesn't have a style..lol


              A little food for your thought. Since FFloyd told u to hate Manny u need to but real boxing fans and not male groupies can recognize that Manny is an ATG

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                #47
                Originally posted by -MARKAVELLI-
                Is Manny Pacquiao style of fighting difficult to imitate?

                Why can't anyone copy him?

                What is his style?........Brawler(slagger)?.... Swarmer(in-fighter)?....Boxer-Puncher?....Offensive Boxer?

                Why can't Freddie Roach teach this technique to his other newbie fighter?

                Yet.... Shoulder Roll/Philly Shell Style is easily imitated by-> Floyd (Supreme technician) but in some ways backfired in Andre Berto , Adrian Broner and Mark Davis etc.

                In Pacquiao's earlier years of fighting as a brawler, he has evolved into a much polish/intelligent controlled offense boxer-puncher.

                There are a lot of video footage of him on the net that would be a treasure to other boxer yet no one dares to imitate him.

                A few occasions I saw Amir imitating the 1-2 and in and out but did not follow thru with that game plan.

                Is Pac the only current fighter with this fighting style and Is too dangerous to copy?

                Complete replay streamlist of his televised fights -> CLICK HERE
                You ask why because freddy didn't teach him from the ground up, how can you teach somebody if all you do is put a body bag. Amateur trainers who train kids from the ground up are better than these trainers like Roach who only steals other fighters due to his connections with HBO Show time, money and having a gym. Pacquaios style is easy to teach but you have to know how to teach foot work and angles. I'll make it simple if you know how to dance salsa can a regular guy teach that dance No. Same apply's Freddy was a forward face first brawler with no foot work so how can he teach Manny style. The person who taught Manny foot work was the same guy who taught Sergio Martinez

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                • BennyST
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -MARKAVELLI-
                  Is Manny Pacquiao style of fighting difficult to imitate?

                  Why can't anyone copy him?

                  What is his style?........Brawler(slagger)?.... Swarmer(in-fighter)?....Boxer-Puncher?....Offensive Boxer?

                  Why can't Freddie Roach teach this technique to his other newbie fighter?

                  Yet.... Shoulder Roll/Philly Shell Style is easily imitated by-> Floyd (Supreme technician) but in some ways backfired in Andre Berto , Adrian Broner and Mark Davis etc.

                  In Pacquiao's earlier years of fighting as a brawler, he has evolved into a much polish/intelligent controlled offense boxer-puncher.

                  There are a lot of video footage of him on the net that would be a treasure to other boxer yet no one dares to imitate him.

                  A few occasions I saw Amir imitating the 1-2 and in and out but did not follow thru with that game plan.

                  Is Pac the only current fighter with this fighting style and Is too dangerous to copy?

                  Complete replay streamlist of his televised fights -> CLICK HERE
                  Broner, Berto etc are about as good at Mayweathers style as a bunch of Pacquiao imitators are at his style. If you are trying to say the shoulder roll, well that's just a technique, not a style of fighting.

                  Floyd's style isn't the shoulder roll. That's like saying Pacs style is the straight left. Floyd is a defensive counter puncher. He uses the shoulder roll, Philly shell etc, but it's just one aspect of his style, like the right hook, roll under is one of Pacs. Berto isn't a defensive counter puncher. What that has to do with anything I don't know. That's like saying Pacquiao and Mercito Gesta have the same style because they're both southpaws and both throw straight lefts.

                  There are plenty of imitators of both guys out there, but none do it very well, because they aren't them.

                  Weird thread. Pretty daft really. A bit of common sense goes a long way.

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                    #49
                    OH MAN LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • -MARKAVELLI-
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by BennyST
                      Broner, Berto etc are about as good at Mayweathers style as a bunch of Pacquiao imitators are at his style. If you are trying to say the shoulder roll, well that's just a technique, not a style of fighting.

                      Floyd's style isn't the shoulder roll. That's like saying Pacs style is the straight left. Floyd is a defensive counter puncher. He uses the shoulder roll, Philly shell etc, but it's just one aspect of his style, like the right hook, roll under is one of Pacs. Berto isn't a defensive counter puncher. What that has to do with anything I don't know. That's like saying Pacquiao and Mercito Gesta have the same style because they're both southpaws and both throw straight lefts.

                      There are plenty of imitators of both guys out there, but none do it very well, because they aren't them.

                      Weird thread. Pretty daft really. A bit of common sense goes a long way.
                      If you think this topic is silly then why even post your comment? You miss my point though in my other reply.

                      Why I emphasize Floyd Philly Shell/shoulder roll in this thread is to just give an example of a style use in boxing which replicated by other boxers yet Manny's style of fighting is yet to be imitated.

                      This is not to diss Floyd thread as I showed compliments to Floyd in my first post.

                      If you are butthurt on why I even included Floyd's name in here, then why don't you make another thread topic on Why Floyd is successful in his Philly shell but others don't?

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