Comments Thread For: Garcia Plans For Speed: Mayweather Not That Strong

[slick23]

I usually avoid these threads where evreryone is so ****sure and such an expert. But what the heck.

First off its assumed that Floyd will make adjustments because? he says so. Where is there any evidence that Floyd has you figured out during a rematch? People confuse Floyd's adaptive reactive tendencies with a skill that guys like Bernard Hopkins have to figure out a fighter over a certain amount of rounds....Tunney beat Grebb that way...But its not necessarily in Floyd's playbook.

Floyd is underestimating Maidanna. Maidanna is indeed ackward and hard to set up but guess what? that is not going to change. Floyd cannot Ko Maidanna, how is he going to keep Maidanna off of him exactly? Let me guess....by keeping the fight in the middle of the ring right?

Heres the problem with that. Ackward Madianna actually has a pretty damn good jab. Floyd gets flustered at times because his style has a certain weakness against countering off a good jab. Madianna was able to use his jab to back Floyd up, its on the tape.

Floyd has actually run a cropper of a pretty good pressure fighter. And Madianna's team is absolutely right. madianna does not need weight to pressure Floyd he needs to be relentless about it from the first bell to the 13th round! yeah the 13th round!!! If he does this he can at least doa s well as last time where he may have beaten Floyd, but at least was competative with Floyd.

Finally. The difference between Hatton and madianna is that hatton was not really ackward. He came straight up the pike and when he wasn't dry humping he was quick enough of foot and hand to pressure off a straight line. Well....that check hook was just the thing to beat a guy who was coming with no angles, straight at you. Madianna is acward, he comes at angles, throws shots that loopity loop around and is good at getting his guy to back up. Floyd is not ****** like Bronner was...trying to outrun a punch that is looping by going straight back....But Floyd is not as fast as people think...he depends a lot on potshotting a counter shot over the other guy which usually stops the other guy flat....aint gonna stop Madianna though.

Floyd may have bit off more than he can chew here.

Quality stuff man. I especially agreed with your thoughts on Maidana's jab. It forces Floyd to be just a bit more aware in the center of the ring. It gives Maidana the chance to close the distance on him. It's going to be a really interesting fight again. I just can't see how Floyd stops Maidana from getting inside on him. As well as Floyd boxes on the inside, it just doesn't seem possible for him to dominate Maidana in that kind of a fight. Maidana's strength and awkwardness alone makes me hesitant to say Floyd is going to dominate.

[Reloaded]

Quality stuff man. I especially agreed with your thoughts on Maidana's jab. It forces Floyd to be just a bit more aware in the center of the ring. It gives Maidana the chance to close the distance on him. It's going to be a really interesting fight again. I just can't see how Floyd stops Maidana from getting inside on him. As well as Floyd boxes on the inside, it just doesn't seem possible for him to dominate Maidana in that kind of a fight. Maidana's strength and awkwardness alone makes me hesitant to say Floyd is going to dominate.

If Maidana is not 20 lbs bigger but the same weight as Floyd as Garcia is saying , then he wont get inside Floyd any where near like the first fight , the weight difference was the strength difference while the bigger man just charges , if Floyd is on the job and not on social media the night before arguing about his aborted children , in other words if his mind is on Maidana he will school him .

[Rome-By-Ko]

******est thing I've read in a while..Sleep on Mayweathers strength,I hope this is mind games or something..Cause May was manhandling Maidana towards the end of that fight..He should be saying he's working on stamina tbh..

[ADP02]

Regarding the ducked Margarito horse****...

"Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million."

Considering how much Floyd makes these days, I think Arum should've paid him what the **** he wanted. What's Margarito up to these days, anyway? It must hurt to get hyped to death by Arum, only to get exposed for the cheating fraud he is, and subsequently getting destroyed twice. LOL

As for "ducking" Cotto, this is from an ESPN interview....

Was the Mayweather fight one that you pushed for through the years at any point behind the scenes with Bob Arum?

Cotto: I NEVER pushed for it at any time before. I would just see what is the best fight that I can get fight by fight. This one is the best one for me now. This is the best chapter in my career so far.

So from Cotto's own mouth, he admitted that he didn't ask to fight Mayweather at any point. But I guess that's Floyd's fault too, eh? Btw, it should be pointed out that when Miguel left Top Rank, the Mayweather fight was made in a few days.

So to fight Margarito, the only chance is if the stars aligned and you just showed us the article to prove it!

That is like when Floyd wanted Canelo on his undercard and
Canelo said "Only if you fight me next".
Floyd's response was "Who talks like that? One fight at a time. You beat Trout then maybe we can discuss"

Imagine Margarito smashed Floyd? Floyd's value would have plummeted faster than a FILL IN THE BLANK ..... and Arum knew that and we all knew that that is Floyd's way of saying, "I DON'T WANT TO RISK FIGHTING MARGARITO". In other words, ROADBLOCK!!!

Years later, after Margarito was caught with them bricks Floyd said in an interview something along the lines of "I didn't fight Margarito as I knew that there was something wrong about Margarito"

COTTO:
Floyd Myweather is NOT interested in a fight with Cotto 2007-12-16..... Floyd gave his thought on Cotto trying to lure Floyd into a fight...... more importantly, Floyd doesn't feel the fight makes any financial sense at the moment.

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-cotto-knows-he-t-beat-me--11721

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[nivek535]

I seen the Interview where Maidana says Mayweather has absolutely no power that he didnt feel it and that Broner has alot more power then Mayweather does.

but if big bro has no power, then its like broner has no power doee!

[Daddy T]

A few good posts in this thread surrounded by a lot of ignorance and ******ation. the big thing for maidana is to work on hjis stamina he needs to be able to do what he did for the first 4 or 5 rounds through 12. If he can do that he has a chance.

he's better and much more awkward than floyd realized at first ... no wonder he's insisting on the gloves issue

[djtmal]

A few good posts in this thread surrounded by adoesn't ignorance and ******ation. the big thing for maidana is to work on hjis stamina he needs to be able to do what he did for the first 4 or 5 rounds through 12. If he can do that he has a chance.

he's better and much more awkward than floyd realized at first ... no wonder he's insisting on the gloves issue

I agree. I think too during the fight his corner has to pace him right so he doesn't gas as bad down the stretch. Floyd counts on guys to gas and lose focus down the stretch. Maidana has to stay focused and poised down the stretch right along with floyd to match his mental game and he can do a better job