Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

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  • LacedUp
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    #6201
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    Look man, you are alright by me these days.. Certainly a quality poster at times.

    But you are beaten here.. Badly beaten...

    Let it go!
    Thank you.

    Well I disagree. Saying Wlad is shot or won 5 rounds are equally ridiculous.

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      #6202
      Originally posted by sugarsmosley_
      tyson fury would have dominated lennox lewis in your eyes?
      What?

      How the hell do you even get the impression that I might think that Tyson Fury would have dominated Lennox Lewis?

      Utterly unbelievable what garbage and lack of logic gets thrown around here!

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        #6203
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Thank you.

        Well I disagree. Saying Wlad is shot or won 5 rounds are equally ridiculous.
        Winning 5 rounds?

        Ok I'll come to the party here. You can make a great case for Wlad winning 3 or 4 rounds, but 5 entails gifting Wladimir all the close ones which would be Wlad biased.

        The fact of importance though is that MOST of the rounds were close, there was really no "dominant performance" in practically any round really.

        It was a bit of a snoozer, far from the exciting and brief encounter I envisioned like when Wladimir has previously faced larger fighters.

        Wladimir shot??

        Well he's CERTAINLY shot in the sense he has massively declined, a shadow of his former self and needs to retire, even if he DOES beat Fury in the repeat. Because it will inevitably happen again and again now. To many people, this constitutes being "shot".

        Myself, well I think he has enough in the gall and nouce to be able to defeat Fury and maybe go a little further on a fight by fight basis.

        However his ultimate dream of unifying now is a thing of the past, Wladimir definitely does not have what it takes any longer to "thoroughly" dominate the division anymore, but he would STILL be among the very top contenders of course and regular champion.

        I for one do not think he should go down the Holyfield, Botha, McCall path of bummifying themselves for the glory of the next generation of boxers, that would be a shame. Go out on a high note I reckon.

        Fury Wlad II should be his last fight win or lose imo.

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          #6204
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          Winning 5 rounds?

          Ok I'll come to the party here. You can make a great case for Wlad winning 3 or 4 rounds, but 5 entails gifting Wladimir all the close ones which would be Wlad biased.

          The fact of importance though is that MOST of the rounds were close, there was really no "dominant performance" in practically any round really.

          It was a bit of a snoozer, far from the exciting and brief encounter I envisioned like when Wladimir has previously faced larger fighters.

          Wladimir shot??

          Well he's CERTAINLY shot in the sense he has massively declined, a shadow of his former self and needs to retire, even if he DOES beat Fury in the repeat. Because it will inevitably happen again and again now. To many people, this constitutes being "shot".

          Myself, well I think he has enough in the gall and nouce to be able to defeat Fury and maybe go a little further on a fight by fight basis.

          However his ultimate dream of unifying now is a thing of the past, Wladimir definitely does not have what it takes any longer to "thoroughly" dominate the division anymore, but he would STILL be among the very top contenders of course and regular champion.

          I for one do not think he should go down the Holyfield, Botha, McCall path of bummifying themselves for the glory of the next generation of boxers, that would be a shame. Go out on a high note I reckon.

          Fury Wlad II should be his last fight win or lose imo.
          Good to hear that. 5 rounds would definitely be biased.

          I can appreciate giving the close rounds to the champion, which means 3-4 rounds isn't out of the question. But I don't think Wlad had 1 solid round in the entire fight.

          That's just my opinion, and I've watched it a couple of times now.

          I don't see why Wlad couldn't fight and beat pretty much all of the other contenders still. He looked pretty quick on his feet in there with Fury and had lighter feet than both against Povetkin, Pulev & Jennings. We didn't get to see much of the power but I attribute that to Fury.

          The difference between Wlad and those guys is that he isn't broke and isn't likely to be broke. Smart fella. He'll retire if he loses to Fury in the rematch.

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            #6205
            Lol.. wlad won no more than 3-4 rounds.

            Lennox prime would beat fury. In my opinion and im not a lewis fan, i am fan of fury (although) not of his views. Tho as same to all of you i respect your varied opinions on this day. I bid you happy Thursday

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              #6206
              Originally posted by Elroy1
              What?

              How the hell do you even get the impression that I might think that Tyson Fury would have dominated Lennox Lewis?

              Utterly unbelievable what garbage and lack of logic gets thrown around here!
              Yes - the biggest culprit being you.

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                #6207
                I think we can all agree that Lennox would've handled Wladimir rather comfortably.

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                  #6208
                  Originally posted by denium
                  I think we can all agree that Lennox would've handled Wladimir rather comfortably.
                  Has that ever been up to debate?

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                    #6209
                    Originally posted by maddad2001
                    Lol.. wlad won no more than 3-4 rounds.

                    Lennox prime would beat fury. In my opinion and im not a lewis fan, i am fan of fury (although) not of his views. Tho as same to all of you i respect your varied opinions on this day. I bid you happy Thursday
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                      #6210
                      Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
                      As I said, I'm fine if people have Fury up a couple more -- Fury won, but it was no shut-out as others think. It wasn't, watch the fight. Fury fought with intelligence, and actually did exactly what he had to do to win. I think very, very few people really believed he would do it just that way - which made it look impressive all the more.
                      9 rounds to 3 is the right scorecard. No "shut-out" as you say, BUT, Fury did shut Wladimir DOWN!

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