Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread
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I don't think I've ever seen any funny business in a Wlad fight regarding quick stoppages. Generally when the opponent is stopped it's clear they couldn't go on. There've been a few dodgy knockdown rulings however (Haye and Povetkin fights).Comment
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This is my take on it as well. If Wlad can get the upper hand in the jabbing battle this fight's his to lose, but if he can't settle into his groove then Tyson has a helluva chance. Tyson doesn't need to outbox him, but he does need to keep things competitive to stop Wlad having it all his own way. We've seen fighters match jabs with Wlad before; trouble is they could never keep it up for the entire fight. If Fury doesn't go into a shell and continue to worry Wlad with his own jab then Wlad might start to fall apart and make sloppy mistakes. He's had more of a tendency to brawl lately and that would play exactly into Fury's hands if he did so.Well...First of all, everyone talks about Vlad's boxing but Vlad is not much of a boxer. He has a jab that he works behind. So him outboxing Fury is more debatable than one might think. he does not have the reach on Fury and while he has a great jab, Fury has a good jab as well.
Vlad's main strength is his power, but he generally has to have his jab working to use his power shots. Sp again, Fury can jam the works.
Now, if Fury shuts down Vlad from the outside and is more busy I see him as having more weapons to fire at Vlad. Fury has more punches that he throws and fights inside and this is where he can hurt Vlad. So...A Fury win comes with matching Vlad outside, working away inside and hurting him inside. Fury will use mobility to set up and punish Vlad on the inside if it goes his way.
To do this Fury has to take risks and beat Vlad to the punch outside...slowly work his way inside and then keep working inside when Vlad wants to hold.Comment
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Refer to his Johnson fight as his gameplan. The fact Johnson was never really in trouble I expect Fury will find as limited amout of chances of openings as he did versus him, less taking into account Wlad is a far superior boxer, the most complete fighter/boxer in the division.
Povetkin had home field, it didn't happen in Germany.Comment
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Have you seen the pictures of him next to Joshua ? I knew Wlad was heavily built but when you see him next to Joshua you realise just how big he really is. His arms especially, they're like tree trunks.
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Sometimes 20/20 hindsight is an interesting thing....its a great exerscize at times. For example, if we pretended that Holly Holm was fighting Ronda Roussey...tomorrow and we had to construct a viable hypothesis for how holm would win the fight, we might construct something that looked very much like what happened. "Holm stayed on her feet, was really mobile and able to deal with Roussey's ground game before it got going. This allowed her boxing skills to work for her."This is my take on it as well. If Wlad can get the upper hand in the jabbing battle this fight's his to lose, but if he can't settle into his groove then Tyson has a helluva chance. Tyson doesn't need to outbox him, but he does need to keep things competitive to stop Wlad having it all his own way. We've seen fighters match jabs with Wlad before; trouble is they could never keep it up for the entire fight. If Fury doesn't go into a shell and continue to worry Wlad with his own jab then Wlad might start to fall apart and make sloppy mistakes. He's had more of a tendency to brawl lately and that would play exactly into Fury's hands if he did so.
If we imagine that Fury has won this fight and what would be said we would probably get a great idea of what Fury needs to do to win.Comment
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TYSON "Too Fast" FURY SLOW DANCING TO A BIT OF JAZZ THEN SHOWBOATS AS WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO WATCHES ON
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That was a relaxed session, but Fury's hand speed when he lets punches go is exceptional for a heavyweight. He looks very fit and is moving well.Comment
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