Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Elroy1]

Well I think this "hogey" character has vastly underrated Fury but he has made meritable points.

Fury has not much to offer Wlad other than a chin to crack really.

[LacedUp]

Hey buddy, I haven't lost anything and never said Fury has no chance to beat Wlad. In fact, I think he poses the best threat to Wlad out there aside from Wilder. You can check my post history to verify it. My issue was with the guy who said that Fury somehow out-boxes Wlad if he sticks to his game plan. You heard it here, not Fury or any other heavy will out-box Wladimir. The only way to beat him is by KO/TKO. Period. Now, put that in your homer pipe and smoke it.

I don't see why not. Wlad is not a pure boxing heavyweight at all. In fact I could easily see Fury outboxing him for parts of the fight.

I guess we both have more in common than I thought.

As I said before I'm not bothered one iota about Wlad taking credit for defeating Fury, the beauty is you and your brethren have to give Wlad credit as you hold the goof in such high esteem.

Then again I'm taking to a guy who considers if Wlad defeats all of Fury, Wilder and Joshua he may have to be considered an ATG I believe you put it. I ask what have those three achieved whereby defeating them would have you considered an ATG ? In my opinion that has already been established. I'm just hoping he achieves these victories whilst surpassing and achieving more record breaking stats to further cement the position he has already achieved.

My expectations of you are relatively little, I've heard your views and opinions countless times and I've come to accept you simply just can not reason with some people and that you shouldn't lower yourself to their level. It isn't that I don't like you, I do, as I've said before you humor me. I just feel your biases get in the way of rationale judgement and you're blinded by resentment.

I have said from the beginning that if Wlad beats Fury I think it would be one of his best wins.

I don't think I've said that, maybe I have. In my opinion Wlad is borderline ATG - If he is, it's purely on numbers, not what he's done in the ring. Because everybody knows that what he's done in the ring is nowhere near great.

My biases ... Jesus Christ you are on deluded MFer. It's called knowledge son. You don't have it, which is why you think Wlad is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing.

Which is of course ridiculous, embarrassing and just plain dumb. Yet you still think it and parade yourself as a knowledgeable boxing fan when nothing could be further from the truth.

[LacedUp]

This Laced_up guy refuses to believe that I've been a fan since the 80's and have watched SRL, Tyson, Foreman, Morrison and JCC at the actual time they happened and not on Youtube decades later like him.

Last time you said that and I laughed loud you said you were a kid and just remember Tyson when he fought Spinks in the late 80s

And now you watched SRL when he fought?

If you have to lie, at least stick with your lies instead of embarrassing yourself time after time.

[Elroy1]

Last time you said that and I laughed loud you said you were a kid and just remember Tyson when he fought Spinks in the late 80s

And now you watched SRL when he fought?

If you have to lie, at least stick with your lies instead of embarrassing yourself time after time.

OMG, as if you, Pinnochio himself, can accuse anybody else of being a liar!

Unbelievable.

[beez721]

I'm just of the opinion that he has the reach and just enough power to hurt Wlad and get him in trouble if he puts punches behind it.

volume and movement is what gives fury a descent chance imo. if he tries to out muscle wlad and goes for broke he gets knocked out early. if he gets on his stick and throws punches in bunches with constant movement he has a real chance of outworking wlad. wlad has never been a real busy fighter and hes only getting older so fury should take advanatge of that. fury has a real chance here if he fights smart. he moves very well for a big man and throws descent combinations but I dont think hes the type of puncher to really be able to starch wlad unless he gets him extremely tired out like purrity did

[LacedUp]

OMG, as if you, Pinnochio himself, can accuse anybody else of being a liar!

Unbelievable.

I'm yet to hear about what I've lied about Mr "Ali was a woman beater and Lennox Lewis was dropped 10 times".

[Jewish-Reptile]

I don't see why not. Wlad is not a pure boxing heavyweight at all. In fact I could easily see Fury outboxing him for parts of the fight.



I have said from the beginning that if Wlad beats Fury I think it would be one of his best wins.

I don't think I've said that, maybe I have. In my opinion Wlad is borderline ATG - If he is, it's purely on numbers, not what he's done in the ring. Because everybody knows that what he's done in the ring is nowhere near great.

My biases ... Jesus Christ you are on deluded MFer. It's called knowledge son. You don't have it, which is why you think Wlad is the greatest thing that ever happened to boxing.

Which is of course ridiculous, embarrassing and just plain dumb. Yet you still think it and parade yourself as a knowledgeable boxing fan when nothing could be further from the truth.

You believe I am deluded ? Wow, just incredible !! You can not accept that your posting style resonates the way it does can you ? It is not knowledge at all, you're handicapped to the point you can not judge a situation rationally when it concerns a British fighter. Hence the reason you appear as ****** as you do.

You're biased.

This is judging me by your standards, you want to be accepted on the forum as knowledgable yet it concerns me little whether I am or not, or more importantly to you. You're appear desperate to be accepted on here, for what reason I'm not sure, I expect the forum means a whole lot more to you than me, likely one of the reason you so brutally dropped your man crush on David Haye in an attempt to stop yourself being portrayed as a fool.

Fortunately for myself I have a life and do not have to rely on this place as my only form as existence.

Everybody knows what Wlad has accomplished in the ring is not great ? Really, am I reading this right ? Or are you just suggesting he bores you in the ring ? I fail to see why that would be an issue to you if you've watched Tyson Fury in one of his typical performances, here we're talking about a guy who bored his fellow Brits ino submission they began to boo him and left the arena, the last I heard Klitschko booed was his performance against Ibragimov and that was in NY not his adopted homeland or by his paying supporters.

If Wlad beats Fury, why would it be one of his best wins. What has Fury achieved in the ring which guys like Haye, Chagaev, Povetkin have not ? The win won't rank anywhere near them unless Wlad destroys the guy. Yet no doubt you'll be hoping Fury gives a good account of himself so that you don't look like a total buffoon after all the backing you have given your fellow countryman.

I'd like go reiterate at this point I hope Fury proves me wrong and turns up like he really wants to win putting everything on the line, it would certainly be interesting if Fury began to accumulate the early rounds, like say the first guy in a long time to actually take the first two rounds versus the champion, it'd be intriguing to see which and what adjustments the champion makes and how he would have to be more aggressive pressing the action, yet I believe we've seen what happens when Wlad needs to raise his game for a higher quality of opponent. It brings out more of the champs qualities.

I'll sleep easily tonight, will you ?

[Szef]

We all are biased.

at certain usual suspect claiming he's not.

[Szef]

And no, Fury won't be one of Wlad's best win.

What did this ever do and who did he beat to suggest otherwise?

He's all hype, very carefully matched. He's Wilder (minus the paper title) - a twitter superstar who has suddenly became Klitschko's biggest challenge because...remind me again, why is he rated so high? Because he beat Chisora? Because he almost fought Haye twice?

Povetkin is the most dangerous opponent to Wlad, not this uncoordinated loudmouth.

Also, thread should be stickied.

[Fury4daWIN]

Why, because you disagree ? I agree with everything he wrote. Fury has been so carefully matched to date it is actually laughable.

OK, let's do this with Wlad:

Chinny? Check

Slow? Check

Stiff? Check

No heart? Check

No footwork? Check

Now is that a fair assessment? Or even a vaguely accurate one? Of course it isn't, and you'd no doubt feel the burning need to correct me at once. Good. That's exactly what I intend to do with Fury whenever someone makes outrageous statements about his skills and abilities (or lack thereof).

Ironically, what older fans used to claim about Wlad is exactly the sort of thing that's now being said about Fury, only it's the Wlad fans who are primarily doing it! Fury brings that nonsense on his head a lot more due to his generally clownish personality which contributes to the circus act veneer, but he's still massively misunderstood and overlooked by a huge number of people who, if they claim to be boxing fans, should really know better.